Unfortunately, I find myself in agreement with Bill, even though I voted for Trump 3 times. If Trump would have stuck with a domestic agenda and disengaged from the international crap, he would be more popular than ever. We as a country can’t refine the oil we produce (we can only refine heavy sour crude)? How stupid is that? That could have been an easy fix through an energy emergency executive order. So many common sense fixes for our own self created problems. Illegal Immigrants, deport them all, using our overwhelming military for a good cause. H1B and H1A visa workers? Cut the whole program and send them all home, easy fix. Increased inflation from higher labor costs would be offset by losing 20-30% of the illegal and quasi-legal population not being here competing for the same resources. Foreign aid? Stop all of it, we are fast approaching $40 trillion in national debt, how are we aiding anyone with essentially just printed money?
If common sense prevailed over the past 5-6 decades, we wouldn’t be $40,000,000,000,000 in debt. Without the STEM savvy H1-b tech workers filling in where our educational system failed us, we’d have had to offshore even more high value technology jobs and businesses.
FlyingDad, I don't know what you were reading, but Bill didn't promote the things that you just promoted that would actually help the U.S. Bill is just upset that Pres. Trump has been making progress in closing the border and sending illegals back, while cutting regulations so that good jobs are created in the U.S. Is Pres. Trump sending the illegals back as fast as you and I would desire? No, but he is making progress. Should he eliminate the H1B & H1A visa program. Absolutely. And he is criticized by most conservatives for letting these continue. Should he have gotten out of Iran after some carpet bombing as he wisely did in 2025? Yes. Unfortunately, he still has too many neocons in his administration. I think Pres. Trump is finally waking up to the high gas and fertilizer prices, and is trying to extricate himself from Iran so the GOP can hold Congress. And the manufacturing index is showing real improvement, so good jobs are finally not going overseas. This is a major plus for the country, but a gradual, indirect, thing that won't make a difference in the upcoming election. His cutting of regulations on domestic businesses is probably helping more than tariffs. And Pres. Trump is holding the line on gun control, fighting against transgenderism, and making progress on on-line free speech by forcing these tech titans to provide free speech on-line again. Elon Musk is helping here.
Bill is a radical libertarian who believes in open borders; cheap labor; and, a balanced budget, no matter how many jobs would be lost by throwing the U.S. into a disastrous depression. This is why libertarians like him only receive about 2-to-3 percent of the vote when they run nationally.
As Bill's good friend, Addison Wiggin, recently pointed out, the debt is so high (and was before Pres. Trump took office), that slashing the debt would mean slashing millions of good-paying jobs. And that is political suicide. And a depression wouldn't affect Bill's lifestyle in the least.
Frank, I think you did a nice job of explaining a dose of reality where Trump fits into the big picture. He did step into a MESS and only God could wave a magic wand and fix everything in a few years. Trump is just a man dealing with a bad deck of cards. God help us if a socialist gets in the driver seat in 2028!
Conservatives have long abandoned conservative principles. Trump is a fascist, plain and simple, who is using his opportunity as president for self-enrichment and the preservation of power.
There were conservatives sounding the alarm about the direction of American capitalism and the wrong path the GOP was taking years ago. One that comes readily to mind is Kevin Phillips, the prescient author of "Bad Money" and "American Theocracy." But, I digress. Let me speak to reality, not Trump's fantasy world:
I own a classic main street retail business. We've been in business for 65 years, were voted in 2025 and 2026 by 350,000 voters in our community as the best in our field, and have the highest number of 5-star online reviews in our marketplace.
Nothing...and we have survived the 60s, multiple wars, the 70s gas crisis, the US Savings and Loan crisis, the Volcker Fed era of astronomical interest rates, the dot.com bubble, the Great Recession, and Covid...but nothing has affected our business more than the government policies of both Trump administrations. In his first administration, his tariffs increased our supply costs by 30% to 80%. (And sadly, the Biden admin didn't reverse them.) Trump's current admin has piled on more tariffs and, again, driven up our supply costs. For no good reason, not adding any value to our products, they are having the opposite effect. Customers do not want to pay for no added value, they're being driven away by our having to increase prices. So, to try to stay in business, we've been forced to take cut costs wherever we can. But still, our margins are now down to break even or negative because there is only so much we can do! We can't pass along such huge increases to our customers. We've seen many business close their doors and, if Trump or his policies continue into the future, we may wind up following suit. Thankfully, we had decent free cash flow in the past and the business has no debt. But, make no mistake, and I think I speak for many like businesses, we're in survival mode. No American businesses are popping up to help us, there are no new American sources that are cost competitive. And we're basically ten years into Trump economic policy!
The GOP is responsible for a lot of where we are. There policies have been no way to run an economy or a country. Reagan increased the federal debt faster than any president in history while lowering taxes, increasing government bloat, implementing pandering cultural policies, built a house of cards economy that imploded years later, and recklessly deregulated the financial industry; George W got us into an unfunded 20-year war in the mideast while lowering taxes; Trump came into office the first time and found himself with a strong economy after Obama left at the height of popularity. Trump literally came into office on third base. But, by the time he left office, he had badly misjudged COVID and mismanaged the economy, and got picked off at third, leaving Biden with a huge mess to clean up. Biden left office with a strengthening economy (The Economist even had a cover story of America's economy under the Biden administration called, "The Envy Of The World") and so Trump came into office a second time, luckily again, on third base. But once again, he's demonstrating he doesn't know how to play the game. My guess, he'll get picked off again and leave his mess behind, as he always does.
I don’t think most businesses saw the problems headed our way when we started off shoring our manufacturing and importing cheap goods. Not sure what exact business you are in, but needing to import because it’s cheaper got us into this mess. The idea of free trade is really an ideal that’s never really been achieved internationally. Centrally planned economies such as China and many others have never really participated in truly free trade.
I respectfully disagree with most of your analysis. Reagan's economy lasted many years and boomed. You also don't seem to be aware that every time tax cuts have been implemented (going back to Coolidge) the result has been an increase in tax receipts . . . ponder that.
Trump came into office on third base, and who put him there, Biden LOL??? I just loved that 12% inflation didn't you? The debt problem is a spending problem, not a tax rate or revenue collection problem. There's very little a President can do to stop it at this stage. Entitlements are the culprit and which party was responsible for those???
I will retire in October on my business' 40th anniversary when I'll hand the reins to my son. The problems you cite are government created, not Republican Party created. If you think a Democrat, any Democrat is a solution to them I've got some beachfront property in Nevada I'll sell you at a great price.
I appreciate your reply, Dave. Firstly, I'm not a Democrat and I wasn't advocating for the Democratic party. I'm a realist, like Bill. I've hardly ever commented here; but, I see a lot of bashing Fox News talking points on these threads and it sometimes gets to me.
I don't think either party has had the right solutions and I absolutely agree with you that the problem is government spending. I also agree that a president can do little to stop it at this stage.
What we need to do as a country is slow down and decide what we want government to do because right now, it seems like we want it to do everything. And, that's just not possible.
We'll disagree about Reagan's economy. You saw it as a great economy that boomed....and it did! But, I saw it as a house of cards economy, fueled by the reckless deregulation of the financial industry, that took us directly into the Great Recession. Reagan just let loose the kids in the candy store! It was pandering government policy.
Remember when Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil was warning George W. that implementing tax cuts would fuel serious budget deficits? Dick Cheney intervened, and I'll never forget what he said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." I wonder if the GOP still believes that (they sure act like they do!) as we approach the $40 trillion mark?
By the way, congratulations on retirement and 40 years in business. That's saying something. You should be proud. I'm right there with you. I'm currently selling my business to two of my employees, we're closing in about a month, and I'll be retiring right along with you.
Very nice reply, and I vividly remember Cheney's quip about deficits. Deficits don't matter, right up until they do!
As a Southern California native (that fled almost 10 years ago) I am saddened every time I return to visit our twin sons and very young grandchildren of 16 months and 2 months. I often wonder, how did our generation allow such destruction and skullduggery to take place on our watch?
Then it dawned on me that we were so busy busting our tails, working 50, 60 and sometimes 70 hours a week building our businesses, paying for private schools and saving for a life in retirement that the "do-gooders" had free reign to transform education, healthcare, government, politics, interest rates etc. There are so many "Near Government Organizations" (aka "Non-Profits") that are feeding at the federal trough and produce nothing of any value, we've now passed the Rubicon.
My wife and I will be fine, but I seriously fear for our progeny. Congratulations on the sale of your business and imminent retirement! Being in business for 40 years is one thing (hopefully our kid can keep it afloat for another 40), but 65 years is off the hook (I hope you started it when you were 10). Great job!
I’m not wholly endorsing Bill’s philosophy, but he’s right about his reckless overseas endeavors. This war with Iran is pointless and only benefits Israel. I have yet to see mass deportations happening, look at the numbers, it’s pitiful, less than Obama. There’s a lot that Trump promised during the campaign that hasn’t been delivered.
Same way we negotiate with crazy places like North Korea and others that have nukes. Iran has been somewhat cozy with Russia and China for years. They have had 47 years to get a nuke and use it on us and haven’t, though bombing the crap out of them might strengthen that resolve rather than deter it.
Yeah, and tell me which president has done anything to stop the madness of our decline. The moral degradation and reduction of our collective intelligence as a population is the main culprit IMHO. LOTS of elites ( rich real owners) have participated in this grifting. I've always wondered what they expect will happen to them. When the Bolsheviks finally rise up they may be left going....how'd this happen?!
The elites like Peter Theil and Zuckerberg have their bunkers already to go. Hopefully some rebel teams will form after the collapse to hunt them down.
Hopefully? Are you looking for entertainment? Or do you think hunting down elites will accomplish something useful? It sounds a lot like the French Revolution, or perhaps the Cultural Revolution. If so, I hope I'm not thought to be among the elite.
Come on, now. I'm talking about tbe elite like Peter Theil and Mark Zuckerberg who dictate how we should live while they fly private jets and have mega yachts. Those guys have bunkers ready when the collapse comes. Their couldn't even respond when question about humans surviving. If Trump and Netanyahu can hunt down and kill Iranian leaders what's wrong with hunting down these elites in their bunkers?
I was unaware that either Theil or Zuckerberg had dictated how I should live, and I have no problem with people owning jets or yachts, or bunkers. I'm much more concerned about people deciding who should live or die based on their sensibilities having been offended, and fear that I might end up on the wrong end of a similar decision.
Your past comments, while perhaps provocative, have seemed reasonable. You've gone off the deep end with this one.
Owning private jets and yachts is fine but these are the same people who tell us we have to drive electric cars and eat bugs. Also how rich would the elites be if they hadn't been beneficiaries of the Fed's cheap money? The same cheap money that has helped destroy this country.
According to whatever AI model Google Search uses (so take it with a grain of salt), neither Theil nor Zuckerberg have advocated eating bugs or driving electric cars. I sympathize with your resentment, but think you may have the wrong target. Anyone who tells you that you have to do something, and can enforce it, is part of the government, the same government that enables the Fed's ability to cheapen our money.
I would love to see a return to the constitutionally-limited government envisioned by Jefferson and other founding fathers, but I can't see how we get there from here. Maybe hunting down elites would actually help. Jefferson wrote that "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Well it is illegal and has punishment associated with it. And you my friend with rhetoric are stepping over a line that some politico might just have a little sport with and cost you a small fortune.
Stepping over a line when the Tech Bros talk about 15 minute cities, UBI, AI control of our medical records and personal mRNA vaccines, the end of cash, etc. Total control if the Sheeple! What happened to the spirit of men like Thomas Paine and Jefferson. Wouldn't they be opposed to a Techno Tyranny? And what happened to freedom of speech? I'm not advocating murder like Trump does when he threatens to wipe out 90 million people. Jus wondering if that would happen.
Should anarchy befall us for whatever reason, the adage “you can run but you can’t hide” will apply to everyone, regardless of the size of their bolthole. Think Mad Max…
Especially because of drone/robot and AI tech. Swarms will be able to target anything and everything. Thermo imaging, sound, visual, probably scent and deep earth geo radar too (eventually) to track you down. Terminator movies not so far fetched anymore. Glad I'm older but worry about kids/grandkids.
The Terminator seems increasingly prescient. I try to draw solace from Paul’s missive to the Philippians, “pray about everything, worry about nothing”.
I generally scrub Bill's screeds for some useful tidbit, but it really has become more difficult as time proceeds. Thankfully, we still have Tom and Dan to provide value. However, hidden within this TDS polemic, in the italics boilerplate at the bottom of the diatribe I found that one Kernal of wisdom to be salvaged;
"You shouldn’t make any decision based solely on what you read here."
Reframing Mr Bonner’s uplifting post, Trump, himself a master of dodging accountability by any means necessary, represents the culmination of a trend that started in the 60s. Accountability has disappeared in virtually every aspect of American life - church, state and home. Reviving accountability will be an enormously challenging task…if it is even possible.
How nice, if gory, to initiate a cultural shift towards Japan's ancient act of contrition, atonement, and preservation of honor. Harakiri for government and industrial miscreants, anyone?
Same old crap from our TDS affiliated old goat. Get help Bill, you’re on the edge and going fast. I quit reading half way down . Don’t know why I even started. Hoped he gotten some psychiatric help, but nope not yet.
Would you care to point out where Bill is wrong? Donnie has added over $11 trillion to the national debt and campaigned on a no new wars platform just like good ol' Woodie Wilson before he got the involved in WWI. How do you know when a politician is lying? When they move their lips.
I blame Mrs. Biden and her husband's close confidants for giving us DJT
These people didn't want to relinquish power despite knowing full well of Biden's mental decline and precarious health
Yours truly knew it too.
I witnessed Biden get mentally lost -- not just forgetful, but oblivious where he was and with whom he was speaking -- in the first six months of his term.
His decline mirrors those of many elders.
But to my knowledge, rather than compassionately manage his decline, Biden's handlers sought to keep him at work.
When the sad truth was revealed, it was way to late for the Democrats to posit a creditable candidate.
Hence, the deciding votes were not for DJT; they were against his opponent.
I love conspiracy theories so what about this one: the Democratic operatives allowed Biden to continue as candidate until it was too late to have primaries. Then they select Harris who garnered only 2% of votes if the 2016 primaries. This coupled with their Open Borders policy gives Trump an easy win. Trump is the perfect president to lead the MAGA fanboys into the Big Tech slaughter house. The right was typically against the Tech Bros promotion of a cashless society and Palentir's Surveillance State. But suddenly the right had no problem with Trump appointing Larry Ellison as head of Stargate. Ellison immediately talks about AI control of our medical records and personal mRNA vaccines without any backlash from the MAGA fanboys. Trump even appointed George Soros protege Scott Bessent at the Treasury without any complaints.
Would you rather have Cammy? That's the problem. We are given a perceived choice between two mediocre candidates - like Pepsi or Coke. No matter which one you select you get a self serving moron who runs up the debt and wages multiple wars.
Jimm- It seems to me that we ‘shoot’ all our messengers. Human nature compels us to pick or discard people or their opinions based on prejudices, history and influencing from others. We all ‘cherry pick’ other opinions. Also we gravitate to like minded or career relative people.
In any event an old saying ‘Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.’ My view is we are all disquieted even in varying degrees to current World events. Then again, there is always something.
Looks like Billy is bashing your idols, "... Bushes (though Bush II made significant strides),...letting the air out of the US empire bubble, deflating its near-monopoly on global power."
That's gotta sting, as so in agreement with BB as you always are. Man.
Oh, where to start. First as previously mentioned the TDS is tiresome. While I certainly don’t agree with all Trump does, it would be interesting to see results from first term had he not been saddled with congress doing everything in its power to counter all he wanted to do. Think what you want about the election and the vegetable that won in spite of running for office from his basement. Also, more votes than the beige hero? I’m still trying to wrap my head around the sheer number of votes coming in at 1,2,3 in the morning to reverse the leads in so many states. Not to mention the 30 counties needed to win in order to win election. Biden got 2, I think it was. Never happened before. Won’t even talk about the idiots that thought he was Russian spy. Knew that was a lie from gitgo since Russia wants high oil price, not drill baby, drill. His second term has been compromised by lib judges making ridiculous rulings and most eventually getting overturned. But, wastes time that could be used improving America.
As to Bills Jew hating, not sure the basis for that, but again, tiresome. What Hamas did to Israel warranted more than what came next. You slip in to my country in the middle of the night and kill, rape and abduct my people, I will level your country. If they want to hide behind innocent people, that’s called collateral damage and it’s unfortunate.
And, Bill, quit quoting dim bulbs from CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and the rest of the notoriously lib/wrong media. You need to quit watching the View for your pithy comments. The number of viewers should tell you how trusted these news programs are.
In conclusion, thank God for Tom and Dan, because the once funny curmudgeon has lost it.
So you believe that Hamas "slipped into" Israel? Mossad knew where the leaders of Hezbollah and Iran were but knew nothing of the Hamas plan to attack? Also how many innocent Israelis did the IDF kill when they activated their Hannibal Directive? Plus, this violence has been going on for decades. The first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, even belonged to and helped lead the Hagana - a group that was considered a terrorist organization by the British.
So a guy in a cave in Afghanistan was able to organize a complex noperation like 9/11? Qui Bono? Netanyahu wrote a book back in 1996 designating several countries for regime change. Then, after 9/11 General Wesley Clark is handed an almost identical list of countries at designated for regime change by the Pentagon. Of course the US wouldn't create a pretext for war! Just ignore the Gulf of Tonkin, Remember the Maine, and Operation Northwoods.
Put on a tinfoil hat and watch the collapse of WTC Building 7. Then listen to the NYC firefighters describing hearing explosions right before the Twin Towers collapsed and how they saw molten metal. Then read up on the Dancing Israelis arrested after being seen celebrating the demolition of the Towers. They were "movers" in a van with $4,700 in cash, multiple passports, and no moving equipment. On Israeli TV one of the Dancers stared that they were there to document the event!
Here's the coherent statement. The collapse of the Twin Towers was suspicious. Firefighters heard explosions and saw molten metal. WTC Building 7 collapsed like a controlled demolition too. The Dancing Israelis were seen celebrating the demolitions and stated they were there to document the events. Seems like it warrants a complete independent investigation. Any problem with that?
Maybe no one stopped it because they wanted it to happen? The Neocons wrote a paper The Project for the New American Century in which they stated that changing the U.S. military and defense policy would take a long time, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor."
Coincidence that the Twin Towers demolition was just what the neocons ordered.
One last point. The response of Israel to the Hamas attack including blowing up civilian infrastructure and killing women and children is justifiable in your opinion. How would you feel then if Iran had the same ability and responded to Trump's bombing of a school and murdering 160 little girls by blowing up schools and hospitals in tbe US?
First, I must be typing too fast for you two libs. Everyone knows hamas hides in hospitals and schools in Gaza. Or didn’t the View talk about that? Second, Iran doesn’t have same ability. And maybe you’re not paying attention to Muslims gone wild in America. Stabbing, bombing churches, running into people in crowds with cars. Turn off CNN and read some real news. I don’t have time to educate you Backwoods’s shut in’s.
Libs? Funny I thought to be conservative was to believe in small government and non-interventionism. Sort of like the writings of guys like Washington and Jefferson. You know - don't leave debt for future generations and beware of foreign entanglements.
Next, CNN? I don't watch or believe any main stream media outlet. Maybe you haven't heard about Operation Mockingbird.
Also, everybody knows about Hamas? How? From the mass media and intelligence community that told you Iraq had WMDs, Oswald killed JFK, the Warped Speed experimental mRNA vaccines were safe and effective, etc.
Where is your evidence that Iranian soldiers are hiding behind women and children? But you didn't answer the question: If the IDF is justified in going scorched earth and killing women and children because of the Hamas attack, does Iran have the same right to do that here after Trump and Netanyahu bombed a girls school? Or would Iraqis or Libya s have that right because the US destroyed their countries?
Totally nailed it John, in my opinion. If one doesn't do anything but read the same narrative year after year and doesn't consider other views then how are you going to assess opposite views? These main stream media streams are all owned by the elite. Is there anyone with common sense that these media moguls want to give their money to the middle class? There is only one reason they own these corporations and its because the kept all the money for themselves and they are still protecting their empires. BUT as society watches the show it is only an ignoramus that can't see these shows and their view are all going bankrupt. They may be able to hold a few diehard columnists but their readership is going the way of the dodo bird. Even the Marxist Euros are now voting populist. Even Euro vacationists can see their leaders created this system of retaining power forever and that is exactly why they never leave office (even after getting voted out) and why just another Mark Carney replaces them. It's a great masquerade but Britain's immigration nonsense, Germany's climate change nonsense and the covid "miracle vaccines" that had all the world leaders come out on day one and demanded the same nonsense are showing their leaders true colors and that is exactly why Euros are now voting populist.
Europe may be voting populists but that doesn't mean anything will change. Just check out what happens in Italy. They voted for the 5 Stars leftist party and then right wing Meloni and nothing changed.
You seem to use references like Forbes, that are completely wrong. The illegal migrants have NOT returned home, they are wandering the streets, breaking into houses, and causing general mayhem. And the law enforcement/military has stated they are not allowed to harm these migrants, but they can sure billy club the locals for protesting...............
Just a short addendum to Bill's history lesson concerning the invasion of Egypt in 1956. Israel didn't invade Egypt; Israel, Britain and France invaded Egypt. Why you might ask. Nassar had taken control of Egypt via a military coup. He then appropriated the Suez Canal. Britain wanted it back. Trump is occupying a space in Bill's head. Blaming Trump for a contractor's incompetence is ridiculous. I've hired many incompetent contractors, during my long life, and I blame them, not me.
But Trump gave his buddies a no bid contract and then instead of admitting his mistake he had his henchmen arrest people for the damage. The former Fox commentator Pirro just had to drop charges against Davis Hearn for supposedly damaging the reflecting pool. Why forgive Trump for wasting taxpayer money by hiring his incompetent friend who already had been convicted of defrauding the federal government?
The runaway high-speed train we’re all on is being fueled by the $40 trillion (and growing) debt. Switch drivers or switch tracks and it will still go faster and faster. We all know where it’s going.
BB, you didn't mention the latest mooted fee of US$100K/month, (or $60K/m with 3 years commitment) for advance access to Truth Social tweets by POTUS. Source: Financial Times.
Now, that isn't insider trading, it's just advance notice of what tweets POTUS will make.
If the average Joe stumps up his money, he can place his trades accordingly, just like the big banks, so its fair and balanced.
However, BB, I'm sure that you'll find some way to criticise this innovative way for a sitting POTUS to make a little side money, without trading. Trading before he made his tweet would be unethical, of course. He and his friends wouldn't do that.
Is it possible that by "conservative" we can mean that Donald Trump's real calling was to keep the current "add zeroes" system, in place since +/-1971, so long as possible? That's what it has always appeared to me that he was doing. Best always. PM
Hegseth a blockhead? As a former officer, I think he’s exactly what the service needed: a total change in attitude from Lloyd Austin, a fat, woke dickhead who abandoned his post and broke morale.
Bill, you need what we called an
“attitude adjustment” so you can get your head out of your nether regions.
Unfortunately, I find myself in agreement with Bill, even though I voted for Trump 3 times. If Trump would have stuck with a domestic agenda and disengaged from the international crap, he would be more popular than ever. We as a country can’t refine the oil we produce (we can only refine heavy sour crude)? How stupid is that? That could have been an easy fix through an energy emergency executive order. So many common sense fixes for our own self created problems. Illegal Immigrants, deport them all, using our overwhelming military for a good cause. H1B and H1A visa workers? Cut the whole program and send them all home, easy fix. Increased inflation from higher labor costs would be offset by losing 20-30% of the illegal and quasi-legal population not being here competing for the same resources. Foreign aid? Stop all of it, we are fast approaching $40 trillion in national debt, how are we aiding anyone with essentially just printed money?
Don't feel bad, Trump has disappointed all that voted for him.
We are obviously being lied to, particularly in Iran.
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Although most Trump's policies ring true to the patriot.
His enactments have much to be desired.
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I am simply reminded no matter how bad it seems with Trump...
Kammy would've been worse.
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If common sense prevailed over the past 5-6 decades, we wouldn’t be $40,000,000,000,000 in debt. Without the STEM savvy H1-b tech workers filling in where our educational system failed us, we’d have had to offshore even more high value technology jobs and businesses.
Very good points.
Jim Marshall
I don’t think the majority of the H1B visa workers are all that STEM savvy as you think. It’s mostly a scam in all quadrants.
Well, having hired and worked with many, I would beg to differ. And I did not hire them instead of US workers, who were not available.
Somehow, I’m not convinced you looked very hard for fellow Americans. Let’s face it, H1B’s are cheaper.
FlyingDad, I don't know what you were reading, but Bill didn't promote the things that you just promoted that would actually help the U.S. Bill is just upset that Pres. Trump has been making progress in closing the border and sending illegals back, while cutting regulations so that good jobs are created in the U.S. Is Pres. Trump sending the illegals back as fast as you and I would desire? No, but he is making progress. Should he eliminate the H1B & H1A visa program. Absolutely. And he is criticized by most conservatives for letting these continue. Should he have gotten out of Iran after some carpet bombing as he wisely did in 2025? Yes. Unfortunately, he still has too many neocons in his administration. I think Pres. Trump is finally waking up to the high gas and fertilizer prices, and is trying to extricate himself from Iran so the GOP can hold Congress. And the manufacturing index is showing real improvement, so good jobs are finally not going overseas. This is a major plus for the country, but a gradual, indirect, thing that won't make a difference in the upcoming election. His cutting of regulations on domestic businesses is probably helping more than tariffs. And Pres. Trump is holding the line on gun control, fighting against transgenderism, and making progress on on-line free speech by forcing these tech titans to provide free speech on-line again. Elon Musk is helping here.
Bill is a radical libertarian who believes in open borders; cheap labor; and, a balanced budget, no matter how many jobs would be lost by throwing the U.S. into a disastrous depression. This is why libertarians like him only receive about 2-to-3 percent of the vote when they run nationally.
As Bill's good friend, Addison Wiggin, recently pointed out, the debt is so high (and was before Pres. Trump took office), that slashing the debt would mean slashing millions of good-paying jobs. And that is political suicide. And a depression wouldn't affect Bill's lifestyle in the least.
Frank, I think you did a nice job of explaining a dose of reality where Trump fits into the big picture. He did step into a MESS and only God could wave a magic wand and fix everything in a few years. Trump is just a man dealing with a bad deck of cards. God help us if a socialist gets in the driver seat in 2028!
Jim Marshall
Conservatives have long abandoned conservative principles. Trump is a fascist, plain and simple, who is using his opportunity as president for self-enrichment and the preservation of power.
There were conservatives sounding the alarm about the direction of American capitalism and the wrong path the GOP was taking years ago. One that comes readily to mind is Kevin Phillips, the prescient author of "Bad Money" and "American Theocracy." But, I digress. Let me speak to reality, not Trump's fantasy world:
I own a classic main street retail business. We've been in business for 65 years, were voted in 2025 and 2026 by 350,000 voters in our community as the best in our field, and have the highest number of 5-star online reviews in our marketplace.
Nothing...and we have survived the 60s, multiple wars, the 70s gas crisis, the US Savings and Loan crisis, the Volcker Fed era of astronomical interest rates, the dot.com bubble, the Great Recession, and Covid...but nothing has affected our business more than the government policies of both Trump administrations. In his first administration, his tariffs increased our supply costs by 30% to 80%. (And sadly, the Biden admin didn't reverse them.) Trump's current admin has piled on more tariffs and, again, driven up our supply costs. For no good reason, not adding any value to our products, they are having the opposite effect. Customers do not want to pay for no added value, they're being driven away by our having to increase prices. So, to try to stay in business, we've been forced to take cut costs wherever we can. But still, our margins are now down to break even or negative because there is only so much we can do! We can't pass along such huge increases to our customers. We've seen many business close their doors and, if Trump or his policies continue into the future, we may wind up following suit. Thankfully, we had decent free cash flow in the past and the business has no debt. But, make no mistake, and I think I speak for many like businesses, we're in survival mode. No American businesses are popping up to help us, there are no new American sources that are cost competitive. And we're basically ten years into Trump economic policy!
The GOP is responsible for a lot of where we are. There policies have been no way to run an economy or a country. Reagan increased the federal debt faster than any president in history while lowering taxes, increasing government bloat, implementing pandering cultural policies, built a house of cards economy that imploded years later, and recklessly deregulated the financial industry; George W got us into an unfunded 20-year war in the mideast while lowering taxes; Trump came into office the first time and found himself with a strong economy after Obama left at the height of popularity. Trump literally came into office on third base. But, by the time he left office, he had badly misjudged COVID and mismanaged the economy, and got picked off at third, leaving Biden with a huge mess to clean up. Biden left office with a strengthening economy (The Economist even had a cover story of America's economy under the Biden administration called, "The Envy Of The World") and so Trump came into office a second time, luckily again, on third base. But once again, he's demonstrating he doesn't know how to play the game. My guess, he'll get picked off again and leave his mess behind, as he always does.
I don’t think most businesses saw the problems headed our way when we started off shoring our manufacturing and importing cheap goods. Not sure what exact business you are in, but needing to import because it’s cheaper got us into this mess. The idea of free trade is really an ideal that’s never really been achieved internationally. Centrally planned economies such as China and many others have never really participated in truly free trade.
I respectfully disagree with most of your analysis. Reagan's economy lasted many years and boomed. You also don't seem to be aware that every time tax cuts have been implemented (going back to Coolidge) the result has been an increase in tax receipts . . . ponder that.
Trump came into office on third base, and who put him there, Biden LOL??? I just loved that 12% inflation didn't you? The debt problem is a spending problem, not a tax rate or revenue collection problem. There's very little a President can do to stop it at this stage. Entitlements are the culprit and which party was responsible for those???
I will retire in October on my business' 40th anniversary when I'll hand the reins to my son. The problems you cite are government created, not Republican Party created. If you think a Democrat, any Democrat is a solution to them I've got some beachfront property in Nevada I'll sell you at a great price.
I appreciate your reply, Dave. Firstly, I'm not a Democrat and I wasn't advocating for the Democratic party. I'm a realist, like Bill. I've hardly ever commented here; but, I see a lot of bashing Fox News talking points on these threads and it sometimes gets to me.
I don't think either party has had the right solutions and I absolutely agree with you that the problem is government spending. I also agree that a president can do little to stop it at this stage.
What we need to do as a country is slow down and decide what we want government to do because right now, it seems like we want it to do everything. And, that's just not possible.
We'll disagree about Reagan's economy. You saw it as a great economy that boomed....and it did! But, I saw it as a house of cards economy, fueled by the reckless deregulation of the financial industry, that took us directly into the Great Recession. Reagan just let loose the kids in the candy store! It was pandering government policy.
Remember when Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neil was warning George W. that implementing tax cuts would fuel serious budget deficits? Dick Cheney intervened, and I'll never forget what he said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." I wonder if the GOP still believes that (they sure act like they do!) as we approach the $40 trillion mark?
By the way, congratulations on retirement and 40 years in business. That's saying something. You should be proud. I'm right there with you. I'm currently selling my business to two of my employees, we're closing in about a month, and I'll be retiring right along with you.
All the best to you, Dave!
Very nice reply, and I vividly remember Cheney's quip about deficits. Deficits don't matter, right up until they do!
As a Southern California native (that fled almost 10 years ago) I am saddened every time I return to visit our twin sons and very young grandchildren of 16 months and 2 months. I often wonder, how did our generation allow such destruction and skullduggery to take place on our watch?
Then it dawned on me that we were so busy busting our tails, working 50, 60 and sometimes 70 hours a week building our businesses, paying for private schools and saving for a life in retirement that the "do-gooders" had free reign to transform education, healthcare, government, politics, interest rates etc. There are so many "Near Government Organizations" (aka "Non-Profits") that are feeding at the federal trough and produce nothing of any value, we've now passed the Rubicon.
My wife and I will be fine, but I seriously fear for our progeny. Congratulations on the sale of your business and imminent retirement! Being in business for 40 years is one thing (hopefully our kid can keep it afloat for another 40), but 65 years is off the hook (I hope you started it when you were 10). Great job!
I’m not wholly endorsing Bill’s philosophy, but he’s right about his reckless overseas endeavors. This war with Iran is pointless and only benefits Israel. I have yet to see mass deportations happening, look at the numbers, it’s pitiful, less than Obama. There’s a lot that Trump promised during the campaign that hasn’t been delivered.
How would you negotiate with Iran if they had a Nuke????!!!
Same way we negotiate with crazy places like North Korea and others that have nukes. Iran has been somewhat cozy with Russia and China for years. They have had 47 years to get a nuke and use it on us and haven’t, though bombing the crap out of them might strengthen that resolve rather than deter it.
The others fear MAD Irans religious leaders do not
That is the impression we get from media sources, but is that an accurate impression?
Yeah, and tell me which president has done anything to stop the madness of our decline. The moral degradation and reduction of our collective intelligence as a population is the main culprit IMHO. LOTS of elites ( rich real owners) have participated in this grifting. I've always wondered what they expect will happen to them. When the Bolsheviks finally rise up they may be left going....how'd this happen?!
The elites like Peter Theil and Zuckerberg have their bunkers already to go. Hopefully some rebel teams will form after the collapse to hunt them down.
Hopefully? Are you looking for entertainment? Or do you think hunting down elites will accomplish something useful? It sounds a lot like the French Revolution, or perhaps the Cultural Revolution. If so, I hope I'm not thought to be among the elite.
Come on, now. I'm talking about tbe elite like Peter Theil and Mark Zuckerberg who dictate how we should live while they fly private jets and have mega yachts. Those guys have bunkers ready when the collapse comes. Their couldn't even respond when question about humans surviving. If Trump and Netanyahu can hunt down and kill Iranian leaders what's wrong with hunting down these elites in their bunkers?
I was unaware that either Theil or Zuckerberg had dictated how I should live, and I have no problem with people owning jets or yachts, or bunkers. I'm much more concerned about people deciding who should live or die based on their sensibilities having been offended, and fear that I might end up on the wrong end of a similar decision.
Your past comments, while perhaps provocative, have seemed reasonable. You've gone off the deep end with this one.
Owning private jets and yachts is fine but these are the same people who tell us we have to drive electric cars and eat bugs. Also how rich would the elites be if they hadn't been beneficiaries of the Fed's cheap money? The same cheap money that has helped destroy this country.
According to whatever AI model Google Search uses (so take it with a grain of salt), neither Theil nor Zuckerberg have advocated eating bugs or driving electric cars. I sympathize with your resentment, but think you may have the wrong target. Anyone who tells you that you have to do something, and can enforce it, is part of the government, the same government that enables the Fed's ability to cheapen our money.
I would love to see a return to the constitutionally-limited government envisioned by Jefferson and other founding fathers, but I can't see how we get there from here. Maybe hunting down elites would actually help. Jefferson wrote that "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Well it is illegal and has punishment associated with it. And you my friend with rhetoric are stepping over a line that some politico might just have a little sport with and cost you a small fortune.
Stepping over a line when the Tech Bros talk about 15 minute cities, UBI, AI control of our medical records and personal mRNA vaccines, the end of cash, etc. Total control if the Sheeple! What happened to the spirit of men like Thomas Paine and Jefferson. Wouldn't they be opposed to a Techno Tyranny? And what happened to freedom of speech? I'm not advocating murder like Trump does when he threatens to wipe out 90 million people. Jus wondering if that would happen.
Have you noticed that you are not a tech bro?
Careful
Should anarchy befall us for whatever reason, the adage “you can run but you can’t hide” will apply to everyone, regardless of the size of their bolthole. Think Mad Max…
Especially because of drone/robot and AI tech. Swarms will be able to target anything and everything. Thermo imaging, sound, visual, probably scent and deep earth geo radar too (eventually) to track you down. Terminator movies not so far fetched anymore. Glad I'm older but worry about kids/grandkids.
The Terminator seems increasingly prescient. I try to draw solace from Paul’s missive to the Philippians, “pray about everything, worry about nothing”.
Be very careful. This isn't a REAL FREE SPEECH world.
Jim
I generally scrub Bill's screeds for some useful tidbit, but it really has become more difficult as time proceeds. Thankfully, we still have Tom and Dan to provide value. However, hidden within this TDS polemic, in the italics boilerplate at the bottom of the diatribe I found that one Kernal of wisdom to be salvaged;
"You shouldn’t make any decision based solely on what you read here."
Wow Ed, nice catch.
Jim
Reframing Mr Bonner’s uplifting post, Trump, himself a master of dodging accountability by any means necessary, represents the culmination of a trend that started in the 60s. Accountability has disappeared in virtually every aspect of American life - church, state and home. Reviving accountability will be an enormously challenging task…if it is even possible.
How nice, if gory, to initiate a cultural shift towards Japan's ancient act of contrition, atonement, and preservation of honor. Harakiri for government and industrial miscreants, anyone?
OH,,,,,,,that's a noble thought!
Jim
Same old crap from our TDS affiliated old goat. Get help Bill, you’re on the edge and going fast. I quit reading half way down . Don’t know why I even started. Hoped he gotten some psychiatric help, but nope not yet.
Would you care to point out where Bill is wrong? Donnie has added over $11 trillion to the national debt and campaigned on a no new wars platform just like good ol' Woodie Wilson before he got the involved in WWI. How do you know when a politician is lying? When they move their lips.
Your question is spot on.
Bill's critics disparage him because his remarks challenge their judgement.
But rather than persuasively justify why they support Trump, they belittle the messenger.
The lack of any of persuasive justification of our current president's decisions much less his personal deportment suggests they have none
Requires no persuasion...
Only one question: would you rather have Kammy?
Not much to choose here...
Not much to discuss.
I blame Mrs. Biden and her husband's close confidants for giving us DJT
These people didn't want to relinquish power despite knowing full well of Biden's mental decline and precarious health
Yours truly knew it too.
I witnessed Biden get mentally lost -- not just forgetful, but oblivious where he was and with whom he was speaking -- in the first six months of his term.
His decline mirrors those of many elders.
But to my knowledge, rather than compassionately manage his decline, Biden's handlers sought to keep him at work.
When the sad truth was revealed, it was way to late for the Democrats to posit a creditable candidate.
Hence, the deciding votes were not for DJT; they were against his opponent.
Yes... I agree!
A lousy choice for either party.
IMO the Democrats being worse.
Not sure why, but from about 160 million to choose from.
How is it we end up with these two?
I love conspiracy theories so what about this one: the Democratic operatives allowed Biden to continue as candidate until it was too late to have primaries. Then they select Harris who garnered only 2% of votes if the 2016 primaries. This coupled with their Open Borders policy gives Trump an easy win. Trump is the perfect president to lead the MAGA fanboys into the Big Tech slaughter house. The right was typically against the Tech Bros promotion of a cashless society and Palentir's Surveillance State. But suddenly the right had no problem with Trump appointing Larry Ellison as head of Stargate. Ellison immediately talks about AI control of our medical records and personal mRNA vaccines without any backlash from the MAGA fanboys. Trump even appointed George Soros protege Scott Bessent at the Treasury without any complaints.
You have a creative mind. I enjoyed reading your conspiracy theory.
Four facts but, from my distant perspective, without compelling links sequentially or one to the other.
Working in the DJT Administration requires a special person: either a pretty girl or a tough-talking but compliant white male
Would you rather have Cammy? That's the problem. We are given a perceived choice between two mediocre candidates - like Pepsi or Coke. No matter which one you select you get a self serving moron who runs up the debt and wages multiple wars.
Jimm- It seems to me that we ‘shoot’ all our messengers. Human nature compels us to pick or discard people or their opinions based on prejudices, history and influencing from others. We all ‘cherry pick’ other opinions. Also we gravitate to like minded or career relative people.
In any event an old saying ‘Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.’ My view is we are all disquieted even in varying degrees to current World events. Then again, there is always something.
I share most of your astute observations
They conflict, however, with my companion belief that there are immutable rights and wrongs.
We all have them. Every religion seeks to imbue them into their fellow believers.
Even our penal code expostulates them
Those who don't follow these standards are the newsworthy exceptions that sell newspapers and are featured on prime time TV.
Uh oh, Jim...m. Be careful, now.
Looks like Billy is bashing your idols, "... Bushes (though Bush II made significant strides),...letting the air out of the US empire bubble, deflating its near-monopoly on global power."
That's gotta sting, as so in agreement with BB as you always are. Man.
Come on now, you are disrespecting our addicted community.
Just trying to have a little good natured fun as we sail towards the iceberg. We have to laugh to keep from crying.
Oh, where to start. First as previously mentioned the TDS is tiresome. While I certainly don’t agree with all Trump does, it would be interesting to see results from first term had he not been saddled with congress doing everything in its power to counter all he wanted to do. Think what you want about the election and the vegetable that won in spite of running for office from his basement. Also, more votes than the beige hero? I’m still trying to wrap my head around the sheer number of votes coming in at 1,2,3 in the morning to reverse the leads in so many states. Not to mention the 30 counties needed to win in order to win election. Biden got 2, I think it was. Never happened before. Won’t even talk about the idiots that thought he was Russian spy. Knew that was a lie from gitgo since Russia wants high oil price, not drill baby, drill. His second term has been compromised by lib judges making ridiculous rulings and most eventually getting overturned. But, wastes time that could be used improving America.
As to Bills Jew hating, not sure the basis for that, but again, tiresome. What Hamas did to Israel warranted more than what came next. You slip in to my country in the middle of the night and kill, rape and abduct my people, I will level your country. If they want to hide behind innocent people, that’s called collateral damage and it’s unfortunate.
And, Bill, quit quoting dim bulbs from CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and the rest of the notoriously lib/wrong media. You need to quit watching the View for your pithy comments. The number of viewers should tell you how trusted these news programs are.
In conclusion, thank God for Tom and Dan, because the once funny curmudgeon has lost it.
So you believe that Hamas "slipped into" Israel? Mossad knew where the leaders of Hezbollah and Iran were but knew nothing of the Hamas plan to attack? Also how many innocent Israelis did the IDF kill when they activated their Hannibal Directive? Plus, this violence has been going on for decades. The first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, even belonged to and helped lead the Hagana - a group that was considered a terrorist organization by the British.
Cartero, And not to mention the fact that Mossad must have known when and where Hamas was going to attack and Nuttiyahoo deliberately let it happen.
So the CIA or FBI knew 911 was going to happen? Why didn’t they stop that? You and Cartero can put the tinfoil hats on and think about that.
So a guy in a cave in Afghanistan was able to organize a complex noperation like 9/11? Qui Bono? Netanyahu wrote a book back in 1996 designating several countries for regime change. Then, after 9/11 General Wesley Clark is handed an almost identical list of countries at designated for regime change by the Pentagon. Of course the US wouldn't create a pretext for war! Just ignore the Gulf of Tonkin, Remember the Maine, and Operation Northwoods.
Put on a tinfoil hat and watch the collapse of WTC Building 7. Then listen to the NYC firefighters describing hearing explosions right before the Twin Towers collapsed and how they saw molten metal. Then read up on the Dancing Israelis arrested after being seen celebrating the demolition of the Towers. They were "movers" in a van with $4,700 in cash, multiple passports, and no moving equipment. On Israeli TV one of the Dancers stared that they were there to document the event!
U saying they knew it was going to happen or is that a question about it.
U can put Ur dunce hat on and learn how to make a coherent statement.
Here's the coherent statement. The collapse of the Twin Towers was suspicious. Firefighters heard explosions and saw molten metal. WTC Building 7 collapsed like a controlled demolition too. The Dancing Israelis were seen celebrating the demolitions and stated they were there to document the events. Seems like it warrants a complete independent investigation. Any problem with that?
Have whomever reading these to you go slower. Wasn’t a trick question.
Maybe no one stopped it because they wanted it to happen? The Neocons wrote a paper The Project for the New American Century in which they stated that changing the U.S. military and defense policy would take a long time, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor."
Coincidence that the Twin Towers demolition was just what the neocons ordered.
One last point. The response of Israel to the Hamas attack including blowing up civilian infrastructure and killing women and children is justifiable in your opinion. How would you feel then if Iran had the same ability and responded to Trump's bombing of a school and murdering 160 little girls by blowing up schools and hospitals in tbe US?
First, I must be typing too fast for you two libs. Everyone knows hamas hides in hospitals and schools in Gaza. Or didn’t the View talk about that? Second, Iran doesn’t have same ability. And maybe you’re not paying attention to Muslims gone wild in America. Stabbing, bombing churches, running into people in crowds with cars. Turn off CNN and read some real news. I don’t have time to educate you Backwoods’s shut in’s.
Libs? Funny I thought to be conservative was to believe in small government and non-interventionism. Sort of like the writings of guys like Washington and Jefferson. You know - don't leave debt for future generations and beware of foreign entanglements.
Next, CNN? I don't watch or believe any main stream media outlet. Maybe you haven't heard about Operation Mockingbird.
Also, everybody knows about Hamas? How? From the mass media and intelligence community that told you Iraq had WMDs, Oswald killed JFK, the Warped Speed experimental mRNA vaccines were safe and effective, etc.
And sneakily killing a head of state and his family.
U.S. soldiers don’t hide like bitches behind innocent women and children. Simple as that.
Where is your evidence that Iranian soldiers are hiding behind women and children? But you didn't answer the question: If the IDF is justified in going scorched earth and killing women and children because of the Hamas attack, does Iran have the same right to do that here after Trump and Netanyahu bombed a girls school? Or would Iraqis or Libya s have that right because the US destroyed their countries?
Totally nailed it John, in my opinion. If one doesn't do anything but read the same narrative year after year and doesn't consider other views then how are you going to assess opposite views? These main stream media streams are all owned by the elite. Is there anyone with common sense that these media moguls want to give their money to the middle class? There is only one reason they own these corporations and its because the kept all the money for themselves and they are still protecting their empires. BUT as society watches the show it is only an ignoramus that can't see these shows and their view are all going bankrupt. They may be able to hold a few diehard columnists but their readership is going the way of the dodo bird. Even the Marxist Euros are now voting populist. Even Euro vacationists can see their leaders created this system of retaining power forever and that is exactly why they never leave office (even after getting voted out) and why just another Mark Carney replaces them. It's a great masquerade but Britain's immigration nonsense, Germany's climate change nonsense and the covid "miracle vaccines" that had all the world leaders come out on day one and demanded the same nonsense are showing their leaders true colors and that is exactly why Euros are now voting populist.
Europe may be voting populists but that doesn't mean anything will change. Just check out what happens in Italy. They voted for the 5 Stars leftist party and then right wing Meloni and nothing changed.
You seem to use references like Forbes, that are completely wrong. The illegal migrants have NOT returned home, they are wandering the streets, breaking into houses, and causing general mayhem. And the law enforcement/military has stated they are not allowed to harm these migrants, but they can sure billy club the locals for protesting...............
Just a short addendum to Bill's history lesson concerning the invasion of Egypt in 1956. Israel didn't invade Egypt; Israel, Britain and France invaded Egypt. Why you might ask. Nassar had taken control of Egypt via a military coup. He then appropriated the Suez Canal. Britain wanted it back. Trump is occupying a space in Bill's head. Blaming Trump for a contractor's incompetence is ridiculous. I've hired many incompetent contractors, during my long life, and I blame them, not me.
But Trump gave his buddies a no bid contract and then instead of admitting his mistake he had his henchmen arrest people for the damage. The former Fox commentator Pirro just had to drop charges against Davis Hearn for supposedly damaging the reflecting pool. Why forgive Trump for wasting taxpayer money by hiring his incompetent friend who already had been convicted of defrauding the federal government?
The runaway high-speed train we’re all on is being fueled by the $40 trillion (and growing) debt. Switch drivers or switch tracks and it will still go faster and faster. We all know where it’s going.
Donald J. Trump... the greatest snake oil salesman of all time.
BB, you didn't mention the latest mooted fee of US$100K/month, (or $60K/m with 3 years commitment) for advance access to Truth Social tweets by POTUS. Source: Financial Times.
Now, that isn't insider trading, it's just advance notice of what tweets POTUS will make.
If the average Joe stumps up his money, he can place his trades accordingly, just like the big banks, so its fair and balanced.
However, BB, I'm sure that you'll find some way to criticise this innovative way for a sitting POTUS to make a little side money, without trading. Trading before he made his tweet would be unethical, of course. He and his friends wouldn't do that.
Is it possible that by "conservative" we can mean that Donald Trump's real calling was to keep the current "add zeroes" system, in place since +/-1971, so long as possible? That's what it has always appeared to me that he was doing. Best always. PM
Example #999...don't type during a hemorrhoid attack, it's nasty shit.
Hegseth a blockhead? As a former officer, I think he’s exactly what the service needed: a total change in attitude from Lloyd Austin, a fat, woke dickhead who abandoned his post and broke morale.
Bill, you need what we called an
“attitude adjustment” so you can get your head out of your nether regions.
Stephen West
Bill: "𝙎𝙤 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 𝙘𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙞𝙯𝙚 𝙏𝙧𝙪𝙢𝙥’𝙨 𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙙𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙚𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙤𝙢𝙮 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙚𝙞𝙜𝙣 𝙖𝙛𝙛𝙖𝙞𝙧𝙨, 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤 𝙥𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙩 𝙞𝙣 𝙪𝙨 𝙥𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙣. 𝘽𝙚𝙨𝙞𝙙𝙚𝙨, 𝙬𝙚 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙣𝙤 𝙘𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙞𝙨𝙢 𝙩𝙤 𝙤𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙧."
And then everything thereafter is a pile on with criticism. 🙄🙄
Mindlessly anti Israel Bill, not even an attempt at moderation