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While a quite accurate portrayal of the relationship between Russia and Ukraine, a lot of key points have been left out.

Ukraine has been under the "boot" of the Russians, on and off for the past 300 years. It was their language that was outlawed, their religion, their way of life by the likes of the Russian dictator Stalin between 1920 and 1950's when he finally passed away. No one wanted it that way, but maniacs have a way of sticking around way too long.

Faced with a Holodomor in the 1930's by way of Stalin's "collectivization" plan, Ukraine suffered pretty brutally. Estimates of between 6-8 million died of starvation. Not of bullets, being gassed or shot. Not having enough food to eat. I can't imagine a slower and more painful death. Not to mention the horror stories (cannibalism) from the people who survived.

When the 2nd World War came, there were very few people amongst the Ukrainians that didn't welcome a "change in scenery" as the jackboots rolled over Stalin's armies pushing them out. While at first hailed as liberators, the Germans were quick to show they weren't a much better solution than the old one that had been shown the door.

With Russian knives at their throats and German machine guns at their backs, Ukrainians did what they do best. They survived. Some joined the Germans and fought against an evil that had destroyed their families in the 30's. Others, with shorter memories, and a desire to live, joined the Russians as they used their own people as meat shields and drove the Krauts back to the Fatherland.

In the end, a "cold war" emerged as the new bosses of Russia, simply kept things status quo after Stalin died. Ukraine was a separate republic on paper, but it wasn't allowed to govern itself. All commands came from Moscow. People weren't allowed to leave the country, let alone travel abroad. My mom, was a lucky one getting a 1 in million visa to leave that country to come to Canada in 1960 at the height of the cold war.

While the languages are similar (roots in slavic or "slave" language), customs, religion etc are today a bit different. History of the two nations, is inexorably tied at the hip. Which came first? Ukraine or Russia? In the end, their histories are one and the same, Russia having been formed from ex-pat Kievan-Rus peoples. If you check Wikipedia, both nations lay claim to Kievan-Rus history. From the 10th century onwards, the divisions become murky at best.

Do I support the war? Absolutely not.

The simplest thing to save lives would have been to let Putin roll in to Kiev. Do what he thought militarily and politically was right. Would everyone have agreed?

Of course not.

Would we have lost thousands of lives and displaced upwards of 2 million people?

Absolutely not.

So while we hail Zelensky as a savior, the only one he is really saving, is the shareholders of the military industrial complex.

The people of Ukraine would have lived on, tended to their gardens, lived their lives, got to see their grandkids grow up and have children of their own.

Like they have for thousands of years before.

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"𝙄𝙣𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙖𝙙, ‘𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙒𝙚𝙨𝙩’ 𝙢𝙖𝙧𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙙 𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙩. 𝙀𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙬𝙖𝙧𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞𝙨𝙨𝙪𝙚𝙙 𝙗𝙮 𝙋𝙪𝙩𝙞𝙣…𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙖𝙩𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙥𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙙 𝙖 𝙣𝙤𝙣-𝙫𝙞𝙤𝙡𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙨𝙤𝙡𝙪𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣…𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙧𝙚𝙗𝙪𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙙 𝙗𝙮 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐𝙎. "

This is an INARGUABLE FACT and largely explains why we are where we are.

Yet, as is also true in so many other areas, the moronic sheep in the dimocrat herd refuse to acknowledge what is obvious REALITY...

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