This is the continued "rope a dope" tactic employed by Iran forever. The straits are INTERNATIONAL waters. A countries limits extend 12 miles from their shores, period. No NUKS and open the straits are fundamental period, the rest of the talk is smoke and mirrors. No one can be allowed to put a "choke chair" around the neck of the rest of the world.
Let’s start from the Beginning:1. Did Congress Approve This War? 2. Were the American People notified? 3. And, Before the War… The St of Hormuz .. Opened✅
Moreover, the last declaration of War was in WWII. All other kinetic actions have been done, legally, under the auspices of conducting a "Policing Action".
You're correct Jim. However, while the world is fulminating about Trumps "aggressions", it conveniently overlooks its own shortcomings.
The first crack in our alliances appeared when China's WTO membership was redefined by China to include the right to ignore whatever international laws it chooses - which will now set the standard for Iran (and whomever else in the future). Here, I'm speaking of the previous ruling from the Maritime Commission in the Hague specific to China's claim to most of the South China Sea. Particularly, with regard to its expansion of military bases in the Spratley Islands - and to underscore its plans for Taiwan.
This now becomes a template for Iran to control Hormuz. The only question at hand - both then and now - is the old "whadaya goin' to do about it?"
Obviously, the Europeans aren't going to provide any real leadership, military help or meaningful resistance, so it will come down to the USA and a small group of allies. The Israelis and some border state Eastern European nations, nervously contemplating what the other Euros on their Western flanks can be counted on to do on their behalf if Russia decides to get "sporty".
In the wake of the Iranians showing teeth to their immediate neighbors, Middle Eastern nations will also be looking for our help too and there any alliance will probably fall along the lines of ancient religious hostilities between Shiite and Sunni - which is why any prosecution of the war against the Alawite Hezbollah (a subset of Iran's' Shiite sect) will be resisted by Iran.
For reasons that escape me and many others, our current president was persuaded to wage war with Iran on behalf of Israel
Baffling since Iran was never and, despite enduring heavy bombing, is not now a threat to the US.
The chaos and cost to the US, to the Gulf states and to all countries whose well being is dependent on oil imported from the region is solely attributable to Trump and his coterie of advisors who aim to please.
The comment from an unknown NYT subscriber reflects the views of many if not most Americans:
"Attacking Iran is the most humiliating, immoral, ill-conceived and disastrous action by an American president in history.
Trump’s apparent war crimes have not just irreparably damaged America and our standing in the world, he has spawned the next generation of terrorists motivated to kill Americans.
Too bad Congress isn’t alive to do something about this, because, contrary Trump’s claims, God is probably not on our side according to the Pope."
I believe all governments will do what' best for their supporters.
Iran is no different, they care only for their devotees...
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I am very relieved the roles are not reversed.
Which is why I support the Orange Man... despite the "abysmal tactics".
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When dealing with folks renowned for their evasive haggling and deceitful promises, outright violent threats scribed on bombs, plastered on buildings and spoken prayers of death...
Why would anyone think a simple "please" would suffice?
Abysmal seems to be the only thing they understand.
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If I am to believe what I am propagated.
The middle east will be a friendlier, wealthier region and oil will flow unabated....
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy your comment vis-a-vis the NYT quote "Attacking Iran is the most humiliating, immoral, ill-conceived and disastrous action by an American president on history" (your comment) i.e...."reflects the view of many if not most Americans" is simply a function of your political belief system. It in no way reflects my views nor the views of half of American population. Have you noticed, when reading the responses to Bill's daily missives, that maybe half of the respondents support Trump's Middle East policies generally, and the war with Iran specifically. Jimmy, perspective is everything as I am sure you are well aware of. Having said that Jimm, I mostly enjoy your posts.
Somebody wake Bill up! Some asshole(s) have taken over his newsletter! This newsletter took a turn for the worse in 2015, when Trump announced that he was running for office. Prior to that, you would have thought that politics had no effect on the economy (other than Bill's obsession with the gold backed dollar from 1971(55 years ago)) prior to Trump. I don't even know why I am still subscribed to this newsletter anymore.
Tom & Dan for me. Appreciate Bill introducing me to his history lessons and Joel Bowman has me contemplating a visit to Buenos Aires on my way to a fishing trip in the Patagonia.
Drill baby drill, that would be hillarious if were not serious and who can make this stuff up?. The Parasitic Super Rich Ruling Class (PSRRC) as defined by an ex combat veteran who nails it.
Iran profits, US profits, Israel profits except, and here's the catch, it's on someone elses dime. Sorry not dime, thats ridiculous, as if that surrmounts to a valid concern. More like a wholesale looting of grandiose proportions a extraction of resources slipped out from underneath the noses of the beer induced coma made up of the general populace smart or otherwise.
This is the continued "rope a dope" tactic employed by Iran forever. The straits are INTERNATIONAL waters. A countries limits extend 12 miles from their shores, period. No NUKS and open the straits are fundamental period, the rest of the talk is smoke and mirrors. No one can be allowed to put a "choke chair" around the neck of the rest of the world.
Jim Marshall
Let’s start from the Beginning:1. Did Congress Approve This War? 2. Were the American People notified? 3. And, Before the War… The St of Hormuz .. Opened✅
Your reply doesn't change anything I said. After 47 years it's long overdue for someone (us) to end this global threat.
Fazal, your timeline is just abit off. The beginning was 47 years ago.
Moreover, the last declaration of War was in WWII. All other kinetic actions have been done, legally, under the auspices of conducting a "Policing Action".
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You're correct Jim. However, while the world is fulminating about Trumps "aggressions", it conveniently overlooks its own shortcomings.
The first crack in our alliances appeared when China's WTO membership was redefined by China to include the right to ignore whatever international laws it chooses - which will now set the standard for Iran (and whomever else in the future). Here, I'm speaking of the previous ruling from the Maritime Commission in the Hague specific to China's claim to most of the South China Sea. Particularly, with regard to its expansion of military bases in the Spratley Islands - and to underscore its plans for Taiwan.
This now becomes a template for Iran to control Hormuz. The only question at hand - both then and now - is the old "whadaya goin' to do about it?"
Obviously, the Europeans aren't going to provide any real leadership, military help or meaningful resistance, so it will come down to the USA and a small group of allies. The Israelis and some border state Eastern European nations, nervously contemplating what the other Euros on their Western flanks can be counted on to do on their behalf if Russia decides to get "sporty".
In the wake of the Iranians showing teeth to their immediate neighbors, Middle Eastern nations will also be looking for our help too and there any alliance will probably fall along the lines of ancient religious hostilities between Shiite and Sunni - which is why any prosecution of the war against the Alawite Hezbollah (a subset of Iran's' Shiite sect) will be resisted by Iran.
So back to Trump. To blink or not to blink...
We do live in interesting times, eh?
Ed, I agree with you 100%.
For reasons that escape me and many others, our current president was persuaded to wage war with Iran on behalf of Israel
Baffling since Iran was never and, despite enduring heavy bombing, is not now a threat to the US.
The chaos and cost to the US, to the Gulf states and to all countries whose well being is dependent on oil imported from the region is solely attributable to Trump and his coterie of advisors who aim to please.
The comment from an unknown NYT subscriber reflects the views of many if not most Americans:
"Attacking Iran is the most humiliating, immoral, ill-conceived and disastrous action by an American president in history.
Trump’s apparent war crimes have not just irreparably damaged America and our standing in the world, he has spawned the next generation of terrorists motivated to kill Americans.
Too bad Congress isn’t alive to do something about this, because, contrary Trump’s claims, God is probably not on our side according to the Pope."
I like your quip - "too bad Congress isn't alive".
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God is likely on no one's side.
God apparently doesn't take sides or the world would be conflict free.
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It's not about fairness, happiness, righteousness, or morality... it's about survival.
It's about King dollar and occidental culture.
It's about a peaceful middle east region.
(peaceful defined as friendly governments to the U.S.)
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The EU is already lost... Trump doesn't want the same for the U.S.
Worthy goals; Abysmal tactics.
Better had our flag followed trade.
A simple litmus test is your response if the roles were reversed.
I believe all governments will do what' best for their supporters.
Iran is no different, they care only for their devotees...
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I am very relieved the roles are not reversed.
Which is why I support the Orange Man... despite the "abysmal tactics".
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When dealing with folks renowned for their evasive haggling and deceitful promises, outright violent threats scribed on bombs, plastered on buildings and spoken prayers of death...
Why would anyone think a simple "please" would suffice?
Abysmal seems to be the only thing they understand.
-
If I am to believe what I am propagated.
The middle east will be a friendlier, wealthier region and oil will flow unabated....
I like his upfront and clear-cut admission; "for reasons that escape me"
Thank you for your attention to this matter...
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy your comment vis-a-vis the NYT quote "Attacking Iran is the most humiliating, immoral, ill-conceived and disastrous action by an American president on history" (your comment) i.e...."reflects the view of many if not most Americans" is simply a function of your political belief system. It in no way reflects my views nor the views of half of American population. Have you noticed, when reading the responses to Bill's daily missives, that maybe half of the respondents support Trump's Middle East policies generally, and the war with Iran specifically. Jimmy, perspective is everything as I am sure you are well aware of. Having said that Jimm, I mostly enjoy your posts.
Somebody wake Bill up! Some asshole(s) have taken over his newsletter! This newsletter took a turn for the worse in 2015, when Trump announced that he was running for office. Prior to that, you would have thought that politics had no effect on the economy (other than Bill's obsession with the gold backed dollar from 1971(55 years ago)) prior to Trump. I don't even know why I am still subscribed to this newsletter anymore.
Tom & Dan for me. Appreciate Bill introducing me to his history lessons and Joel Bowman has me contemplating a visit to Buenos Aires on my way to a fishing trip in the Patagonia.
Sorry. No time to comment. I'm out celebrating the cease fire.
The 1913 coup.
The parasitic state and its larcenists continue.
Drill baby drill, that would be hillarious if were not serious and who can make this stuff up?. The Parasitic Super Rich Ruling Class (PSRRC) as defined by an ex combat veteran who nails it.
Iran profits, US profits, Israel profits except, and here's the catch, it's on someone elses dime. Sorry not dime, thats ridiculous, as if that surrmounts to a valid concern. More like a wholesale looting of grandiose proportions a extraction of resources slipped out from underneath the noses of the beer induced coma made up of the general populace smart or otherwise.
How does it end. ?