I'm happy to be out of the working 'matrix' so I don't have to interact with those orange-haired lesbians in HR as I may accidentally forget to use the proper pronoun.
Happy to be out of the working matrix too. I was put off by the HR training 15 years ago when I left as the woke culture started its initial growth. I was disheartened by what seemed to me the movement toward INCLUSION rather than EXPERTISE / CONTRIBUTION and I wasn't the highest in the expertise category but certainly, being in a chemical company, I had tremendous respect for the expertise. EXPERTISE and CONTRIBUTION (I.E. MERIT) was what solved problems.
Enjoyed immensely your imaginative and inspired post . You have a gift with metaphors, and being an octogenarian, I pay special heed to your comments on mortality. Your introductory photo reminds me of the "Tree of Life" symbolism, the connection between Heaven and Earth. But it is this line that moved me the most, "it is the looming grave that makes life above ground so jolly"! It reminds me of a quote from "Rainer Maria Rilke" in describing the same observation that you make, "Ah, the knowledge of impermanence That haunts our days Is their very fragrance".
Though the thought of our own death may be lugubrious, it's reward is the enjoyment of the days we have left.
Is it just me or does it seem like the BEST BB communiques are the one's he seems to type off the top of his head? I mean, this is an excellent posting and reads like it's simply Stream of Conscience...
The printing cycle will end, but they are not worried about that. They can print as much money as they want because sooner or later, the government is going to eliminate all paper currency and replace it with a “digital” currency, so it doesn’t matter how much they print right now. The only thing they need to worry about is how to defeat global digital competition.
On top of that, they (who’s they? 😂) the Fed/Government is also coming to take your physical gold away from You, hahaha, everything will be digital, on a global scale.
They will soon know how you spend every single penny of your money, and they will subtract fees, taxes, and the new up and coming “Gun Safety” Federal Tax from your account anytime they want.
In order words, we are royally fuuuuudged!!!
😂
Inflation will continue to rise, interest rates will continue going up, the stock market will continue going down. Billions in family fortunes will lost.
Yes Yes Bill, as the cycle of nations, government and corporations prove that time corrupts all living things. As leaders become mentally and morally demented, the norm becomes abnormal, which becomes normal, as we are witness to in our world today.
Yes, that's outstanding. You don't know one thing about my education, background, "perspectives" or job experience, yet you confidently put me in a grouping. Because you can't stop bragging about your accomplishments (none of which can be verified), I know exactly what you are. You must have been great at the art of negotiating--I'm sure you would let your adversary know just what a very smart person they were dealing with. Sun Tzu chuckles..
What gives? These boards have turned REALLY dark the last few days. Some people taking replies totally personal and striking back with abandon. This is usual such an, if not cordial, at least courteous place. Seems like we suddenly have a small troupe of PG V's in our midst...
Outside thankfully. My mom might get a mild whack in the Ft. Myers area (SWF) but I otherwise don't have any family or property in the potential strike zone.
To long-suffering Panama City/Destin: better buckle up, friends...
Thank you again for another wonderful essay, the beginning of which was particularly poignant, and resonant. We just sent our second (and last) child to college. My wife's emotions were similar to those you described. I sent my son and his elder brother (who is starting his last year in college) off with a note of my own.
sadly it sounds like your giving up on the challenge of being in this arena .. but don't give up on yourself mate .. the end of the world, as we from the last millennium know has already come and gone .. the challenge is to keep on riding through each cycle of madness to which there may be no end in your/our lifetimes .. but for the sake of those that follow us freedom to express a point of view and defend it with intelligence and grace are a skill few develop to the degree that Bill Bonner and the rest of the guys have .. they (Joel Dan Tom) represent the light of hope that keeps me and thousands like me sane and sober, although at times I'd like to take a big slug of good wine but the body weaken like the leaves that fall from the trees yet as someone pointed out the trees do not die and springtime will come again and life goes on, regardless of your personal hates love's or likes!
I just want to say "Goodbye" to all of you. I've written my last post for this screwball thread. From the religious hypocrites who think the biggest liar to ever sit in the White House is a saint, to the political jackasses who think Putin is an angel and the US stole his halo, to the people who ( I'm sure sincerely) seriously responded to my opening remark today, I'm forced to conclude it's hopeless. Take care.
Actually, Brian, I am licensed at all 3 levels by the FCC for amateur radio communication and continually speak to people all around the country and the world and I don't encounter the narrow-mindedness and ignorance that exists here.
Not at all. But try this: Having watched this entire transgender thing unfold, and being trained in biology, it has been difficult to escape the conclusion that the actual physiology of male & female is degrading due to some environmental cause(es). Forever chemicals, processed diets, I can't say. Again, it's a complex issue. Please don't think ill of me here, as I'm not making excuses for these people. I personally feel some guy thinking he has the right to walk into a ladies room just because he feels like being a woman is disgusting. Social media may be helping, but it would be very naive to think the problem does not have a physiological basis. You may be thinking "Well this has gone on in the past" yes, Dave, but not on the grand scale it is today. If you don't believe me, just check with the Pentagon-they have been watching the testosterone level in men drop for decades. Similar is now occurring with females. I sincerely hope that is a satisfactorily comprehensive example of open mindedness to suit you.
While it's tempting to think the transgender thing is physiological - consider this: even Bill Mahr, not a conservative at all, noticed that there are more transgender kids in California than Ohio - AND, he came out against transgender treatment/surgery for children(!!). It's largely cultural, and another sign of our decaying empire, or more accurately, a sign that God's spirit is leaving the earth. Not on God's own accord; He was pushed away. See Romans 1:16-32. Paul nailed it. It's almost as if he could see into our time.
Alex, California is a hell of a lot bigger than Ohio. And even if you are talking about it as a percentage, the atmosphere, whether we agree with it or not, is more encouraging for them to come out. That has nothing to do with my point about a physiological base to the issue. Good example about why this is hopeless.
I do not see why you would think that such a statement would not be made here on this forum or that it would fail to be given reasonable consideration.
Because most of them can only deal in black and white. The transgender thing is particularly bad (or a particularly good example) because many, mostly on the religious right want to reduce it to a moral argument allowing them to feel superior to the people affected. At least that has been my experience.
Anyone who's really interested should read a book I'm about halfway through called Lost in TransNation. Very interesting and in-depth study about the rise of this transgender situation we are currently in. It appears to be mostly psychological although I believe there are also physiological factors at work given the amount of hormone disrupting toxins floating around in our environment everywhere these days..
Hey Brian. Trust me when I say we have not heard the last of him. He is entirely delusional. He will not leave the thread. He is the tough talking keyboard warrior. He is the boy who people made fun of in high school.
How are you in vector.? I said the exact same thing!! If that fool has a chance to bloviate and pontificate to us, he will never leave. Anytime anyone disagrees from his narrow perspective that person is wrong. He is so diluted on Ukraine, and someone the other things. One thing I am certain of he will not stop posting lol! He is literally in capable.
sadly it sounds like your giving up on the challenge of being in this arena .. but don't give up on yourself mate .. the end of the world, as we from the last millennium know has already come and gone .. the challenge is to keep on riding through each cycle of madness to which there may be no end in your/our lifetimes .. but for the sake of those that follow us freedom to express a point of view and defend it with intelligence and grace are a skill few develop to the degree that Bill Bonner and the rest of the guys have .. they (Joel Dan Tom) represent the light of hope that keeps me and thousands like me sane and sober, although at times I'd like to take a big slug of good wine but the body weaken like the leaves that fall from the trees yet as someone pointed out the trees do not die and springtime will come again and life goes on, regardless of your personal hates love's or likes!
Altschule, It's not about giving up. Last night I brought over a home made meal to a woman who has been the best friend I ever had. Due to a long lasting physical condition, dementia has set in. She still recognizes me and is happy to see me but it is difficult for us to interact in any meaningful way. It puts in perspective having to deal with a bunch of guys who COULD think but choose not to. People with very limited backgrounds and limited news sources. Why are their sources limited? Because the neurosis that drives their insecurity is so great they cannot tolerate being exposed to broader perspectives. Peace man.
Thank you, I sincerely appreciate it. THANK GOODNESS! I am not the caregiver. It's only due to the happy history we have that I see her as much as I can, but even that is becoming tuff to face and not be discouraged.
Harry I've not met anyone who is more pessimistic about our species after 80 years of watching and participating in many theaters as I am .. I'm confounded by the devolution of humankind at least everywhere except in very few indigenous tribes and even those show signs of corruption and perversion .. all that you might hear on this particular blog/letter is a broad sample of what's out there in humanity .. my most cherished lesson is "whomever I see, is just a reflection of me" what they say/thoughts and actions are the only means I have of perceiving their validity ie JUDGING to separate myself/ego from them so that I might feel better briefly or UN-polluted .. but we are all capable of being idiots and assholes and so even tho I resist all attempts to get into the slave relationship about Mr Trump .. like with a former subscriber PG V I have to accept that he exists and my like or dislike for him is totally irrelevant! ok enough philosophy just live and let live .. best for whatever you do ..
I am so sorry they wore you down and out. I, too, see the same 'perspectives' and have challenged them; then, decided to pass them on by and write 'my truth as I know it'
You could do that too. Harry: "Never ever try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.".....LMAO heh heh....p.s. I will look for your opening remark.
I don't mind people having different opinions than I do, especially when they're wrong. I do agree that Trump is not a saint (I doubt anyone here thinks he is), and that putin is a grade A (insert expletive here, if you wish). I also agree it's hopeless. Remember,
A true cycle should not invoke sadness. Rather it should inspire satisfaction and hope. What government does as it evolves is not a cycle; it is evolution over a long period, or perhaps entropy. Sadness comes from the degradation we anticipate over time. Government certainly falls into this category at times. I believe this is that time.
"And the leaves hang sadly on the trees; they've all been given the death sentence." Does Bill need a shot of B-12? Maybe we should pass the hat around. Bill, lighten up, it's all part of the cyclicality of nature.
Well, OK. But take a look through history. When wasn't it considered dire times? At some point, people who come to grips with life realize that we create our own reality.
The cycle of nature should not exist; it's all due to the fall almost 6,000 years ago. And one day, perhaps sooner than everyone thinks, it will end, replaced by eternity.
Don't hold your breath, Alex. The entire universe, if you insist, the universe God created, is cyclical in nature, continually going through cycles of expansion and contraction, and at all levels from the sub atomic to the macro, ever changing.
I know I'm in over my head because I'm 73, retired and see only idiocy. That, however, doesn't mean I'm wrong or right in my views but I can't do much more than be honest. Maybe I'm absurdly wrong but expressing my perspective may help someone or all of us to understand what is going on. We all paid something to join this group, something brought us to pay for these ideas.
Harry, you may be overwhelmed but maybe your ideas will allow more insight. Certainly some descension is always necessary to find reality or a positive direction.
You're probably right, WFE...sad that opposing viewpoints are met with personal hostility instead of doing verbal battle on the field of ideas..I'm not for an echo chamber, and have had my mind changed by a persuasive, well-thought out argument. But not by snarky insult, which seems to be the lefty way to converse these days.
I'm happy to be out of the working 'matrix' so I don't have to interact with those orange-haired lesbians in HR as I may accidentally forget to use the proper pronoun.
Please don't use that derogatory language here. Even BPR has standards. The proper term is 'vagitarian.'
Those would be the one's not using their Bonus Holes in the intended manner...
Hey brother Starboard, hope you and family are safe and wishing you and yours well 🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you Steve.
We're all good down on the SE coast...
Happy to be out of the working matrix too. I was put off by the HR training 15 years ago when I left as the woke culture started its initial growth. I was disheartened by what seemed to me the movement toward INCLUSION rather than EXPERTISE / CONTRIBUTION and I wasn't the highest in the expertise category but certainly, being in a chemical company, I had tremendous respect for the expertise. EXPERTISE and CONTRIBUTION (I.E. MERIT) was what solved problems.
Enjoyed immensely your imaginative and inspired post . You have a gift with metaphors, and being an octogenarian, I pay special heed to your comments on mortality. Your introductory photo reminds me of the "Tree of Life" symbolism, the connection between Heaven and Earth. But it is this line that moved me the most, "it is the looming grave that makes life above ground so jolly"! It reminds me of a quote from "Rainer Maria Rilke" in describing the same observation that you make, "Ah, the knowledge of impermanence That haunts our days Is their very fragrance".
Though the thought of our own death may be lugubrious, it's reward is the enjoyment of the days we have left.
Is it just me or does it seem like the BEST BB communiques are the one's he seems to type off the top of his head? I mean, this is an excellent posting and reads like it's simply Stream of Conscience...
The printing cycle will end, but they are not worried about that. They can print as much money as they want because sooner or later, the government is going to eliminate all paper currency and replace it with a “digital” currency, so it doesn’t matter how much they print right now. The only thing they need to worry about is how to defeat global digital competition.
On top of that, they (who’s they? 😂) the Fed/Government is also coming to take your physical gold away from You, hahaha, everything will be digital, on a global scale.
They will soon know how you spend every single penny of your money, and they will subtract fees, taxes, and the new up and coming “Gun Safety” Federal Tax from your account anytime they want.
In order words, we are royally fuuuuudged!!!
😂
Inflation will continue to rise, interest rates will continue going up, the stock market will continue going down. Billions in family fortunes will lost.
What should we do? Ask the Fed!!! Hahaha!
ES: Unfortunately, you may be closer to the truth than you think. Any way we can find a way to get rid of the Fed??
Is that really you, Dorothy?
Maybe the Doc changed up her meds...
C'mon, just playing Dottie. You know we love you...
A/SE: Yes, it's really me. No change in meds..yet! Have a great day.
Yes we are missing the mark gentleman remember,
"It's the government stupid"
Yes Yes Bill, as the cycle of nations, government and corporations prove that time corrupts all living things. As leaders become mentally and morally demented, the norm becomes abnormal, which becomes normal, as we are witness to in our world today.
Yes, that's outstanding. You don't know one thing about my education, background, "perspectives" or job experience, yet you confidently put me in a grouping. Because you can't stop bragging about your accomplishments (none of which can be verified), I know exactly what you are. You must have been great at the art of negotiating--I'm sure you would let your adversary know just what a very smart person they were dealing with. Sun Tzu chuckles..
An old government withers and dies as nature dictates. In the case of the US, the nature of the living dead.
What gives? These boards have turned REALLY dark the last few days. Some people taking replies totally personal and striking back with abandon. This is usual such an, if not cordial, at least courteous place. Seems like we suddenly have a small troupe of PG V's in our midst...
Yes, I agree, but I liked PG a whole lot more. Seriously.
Hi M -
Outside thankfully. My mom might get a mild whack in the Ft. Myers area (SWF) but I otherwise don't have any family or property in the potential strike zone.
To long-suffering Panama City/Destin: better buckle up, friends...
Thank you again for another wonderful essay, the beginning of which was particularly poignant, and resonant. We just sent our second (and last) child to college. My wife's emotions were similar to those you described. I sent my son and his elder brother (who is starting his last year in college) off with a note of my own.
https://jdbreen.substack.com/p/paternal-advice
Thanks again for yours.
Hey Harry
sadly it sounds like your giving up on the challenge of being in this arena .. but don't give up on yourself mate .. the end of the world, as we from the last millennium know has already come and gone .. the challenge is to keep on riding through each cycle of madness to which there may be no end in your/our lifetimes .. but for the sake of those that follow us freedom to express a point of view and defend it with intelligence and grace are a skill few develop to the degree that Bill Bonner and the rest of the guys have .. they (Joel Dan Tom) represent the light of hope that keeps me and thousands like me sane and sober, although at times I'd like to take a big slug of good wine but the body weaken like the leaves that fall from the trees yet as someone pointed out the trees do not die and springtime will come again and life goes on, regardless of your personal hates love's or likes!
I just want to say "Goodbye" to all of you. I've written my last post for this screwball thread. From the religious hypocrites who think the biggest liar to ever sit in the White House is a saint, to the political jackasses who think Putin is an angel and the US stole his halo, to the people who ( I'm sure sincerely) seriously responded to my opening remark today, I'm forced to conclude it's hopeless. Take care.
Trump is no saint but on to Putin...
Putin is not the cause of yours or our troubles.
If you think he is causing any of what troubles our nation, you've been had.
Good luck insulting people you don't agree with on another thread Harry.
Actually, Brian, I am licensed at all 3 levels by the FCC for amateur radio communication and continually speak to people all around the country and the world and I don't encounter the narrow-mindedness and ignorance that exists here.
Please give us an example of the open-mindedness you encounter.
(I hope it isn't "There are more than two sexes.")
Not at all. But try this: Having watched this entire transgender thing unfold, and being trained in biology, it has been difficult to escape the conclusion that the actual physiology of male & female is degrading due to some environmental cause(es). Forever chemicals, processed diets, I can't say. Again, it's a complex issue. Please don't think ill of me here, as I'm not making excuses for these people. I personally feel some guy thinking he has the right to walk into a ladies room just because he feels like being a woman is disgusting. Social media may be helping, but it would be very naive to think the problem does not have a physiological basis. You may be thinking "Well this has gone on in the past" yes, Dave, but not on the grand scale it is today. If you don't believe me, just check with the Pentagon-they have been watching the testosterone level in men drop for decades. Similar is now occurring with females. I sincerely hope that is a satisfactorily comprehensive example of open mindedness to suit you.
While it's tempting to think the transgender thing is physiological - consider this: even Bill Mahr, not a conservative at all, noticed that there are more transgender kids in California than Ohio - AND, he came out against transgender treatment/surgery for children(!!). It's largely cultural, and another sign of our decaying empire, or more accurately, a sign that God's spirit is leaving the earth. Not on God's own accord; He was pushed away. See Romans 1:16-32. Paul nailed it. It's almost as if he could see into our time.
Alex, California is a hell of a lot bigger than Ohio. And even if you are talking about it as a percentage, the atmosphere, whether we agree with it or not, is more encouraging for them to come out. That has nothing to do with my point about a physiological base to the issue. Good example about why this is hopeless.
Thanks for the reply.
I do not see why you would think that such a statement would not be made here on this forum or that it would fail to be given reasonable consideration.
Because most of them can only deal in black and white. The transgender thing is particularly bad (or a particularly good example) because many, mostly on the religious right want to reduce it to a moral argument allowing them to feel superior to the people affected. At least that has been my experience.
Always with the virtue signaling. Good luck to you, and I will not miss your feeble attempts at "debate."
Feeble or otherwise, they rattled your cage.
Anyone who's really interested should read a book I'm about halfway through called Lost in TransNation. Very interesting and in-depth study about the rise of this transgender situation we are currently in. It appears to be mostly psychological although I believe there are also physiological factors at work given the amount of hormone disrupting toxins floating around in our environment everywhere these days..
Hey Brian. Trust me when I say we have not heard the last of him. He is entirely delusional. He will not leave the thread. He is the tough talking keyboard warrior. He is the boy who people made fun of in high school.
"I just want to say "Goodbye" to all of you. I've written my last post for this screwball thread."
When I read this I thought "Fat Chance. A man as full of himself as you are will never be able to squeeze out the door."
All of your subsequent posts proved me right.
How are you in vector.? I said the exact same thing!! If that fool has a chance to bloviate and pontificate to us, he will never leave. Anytime anyone disagrees from his narrow perspective that person is wrong. He is so diluted on Ukraine, and someone the other things. One thing I am certain of he will not stop posting lol! He is literally in capable.
sadly it sounds like your giving up on the challenge of being in this arena .. but don't give up on yourself mate .. the end of the world, as we from the last millennium know has already come and gone .. the challenge is to keep on riding through each cycle of madness to which there may be no end in your/our lifetimes .. but for the sake of those that follow us freedom to express a point of view and defend it with intelligence and grace are a skill few develop to the degree that Bill Bonner and the rest of the guys have .. they (Joel Dan Tom) represent the light of hope that keeps me and thousands like me sane and sober, although at times I'd like to take a big slug of good wine but the body weaken like the leaves that fall from the trees yet as someone pointed out the trees do not die and springtime will come again and life goes on, regardless of your personal hates love's or likes!
Altschule, It's not about giving up. Last night I brought over a home made meal to a woman who has been the best friend I ever had. Due to a long lasting physical condition, dementia has set in. She still recognizes me and is happy to see me but it is difficult for us to interact in any meaningful way. It puts in perspective having to deal with a bunch of guys who COULD think but choose not to. People with very limited backgrounds and limited news sources. Why are their sources limited? Because the neurosis that drives their insecurity is so great they cannot tolerate being exposed to broader perspectives. Peace man.
Thank you, I sincerely appreciate it. THANK GOODNESS! I am not the caregiver. It's only due to the happy history we have that I see her as much as I can, but even that is becoming tuff to face and not be discouraged.
Harry I've not met anyone who is more pessimistic about our species after 80 years of watching and participating in many theaters as I am .. I'm confounded by the devolution of humankind at least everywhere except in very few indigenous tribes and even those show signs of corruption and perversion .. all that you might hear on this particular blog/letter is a broad sample of what's out there in humanity .. my most cherished lesson is "whomever I see, is just a reflection of me" what they say/thoughts and actions are the only means I have of perceiving their validity ie JUDGING to separate myself/ego from them so that I might feel better briefly or UN-polluted .. but we are all capable of being idiots and assholes and so even tho I resist all attempts to get into the slave relationship about Mr Trump .. like with a former subscriber PG V I have to accept that he exists and my like or dislike for him is totally irrelevant! ok enough philosophy just live and let live .. best for whatever you do ..
Sorry bro, appreciate you and don’t want to chase you off 🙏
I am so sorry they wore you down and out. I, too, see the same 'perspectives' and have challenged them; then, decided to pass them on by and write 'my truth as I know it'
You could do that too. Harry: "Never ever try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.".....LMAO heh heh....p.s. I will look for your opening remark.
Thank you Harry 🙏
I don't mind people having different opinions than I do, especially when they're wrong. I do agree that Trump is not a saint (I doubt anyone here thinks he is), and that putin is a grade A (insert expletive here, if you wish). I also agree it's hopeless. Remember,
The situation is hopeless, but not serious.
Well, ok, sometimes it's serious.
Hi Alex -
Whatever happened to: "Never let the bastards get ya down"?
You would think the older a man gets, the tougher he becomes. But maybe not. Sheesh...
Thank you Bill. As always a great lesson.
A true cycle should not invoke sadness. Rather it should inspire satisfaction and hope. What government does as it evolves is not a cycle; it is evolution over a long period, or perhaps entropy. Sadness comes from the degradation we anticipate over time. Government certainly falls into this category at times. I believe this is that time.
Likely that this time we will NOT see the "cycle" or the "degradation" in the same form as we have looking back at History.
This current last turning is shaping up to be much more complete and much more vicious. AND it's going to strike on a Global basis...
All very true, Bill. Good job!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ralph W.
"And the leaves hang sadly on the trees; they've all been given the death sentence." Does Bill need a shot of B-12? Maybe we should pass the hat around. Bill, lighten up, it's all part of the cyclicality of nature.
I believe Bill was cleverly coining a metaphor for all life, including our own.
No doubt Dave, it's just that I've never seen it put in such dire terms!
I don't know about you, but I happen to share Bill's concern that these are dire times and circumstances.
Well, OK. But take a look through history. When wasn't it considered dire times? At some point, people who come to grips with life realize that we create our own reality.
You know, you guys are tough to deal with. I thought I would give everyone a good laugh and all I got was a bunch of heavy handed metaphysics!
Harry..that is merely civil repartee...
You always amuse me Harry! Almost as funny as Biden 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂thank you for the joke you helped create in your reality 🤔
Well Dave, now you do know about me.
human life has an entry and and exit .. what not to like ..?
The cycle of nature should not exist; it's all due to the fall almost 6,000 years ago. And one day, perhaps sooner than everyone thinks, it will end, replaced by eternity.
Don't hold your breath, Alex. The entire universe, if you insist, the universe God created, is cyclical in nature, continually going through cycles of expansion and contraction, and at all levels from the sub atomic to the macro, ever changing.
Harry you appear to be supporting what Bill has written. Allow a little poetic licence. The leavesl die but the tree lives on. A fitting metaphor IMO.
Good observation. But to me, he still sounds like a bottle of Valium.
better that, than a bottle of scotch ..!
I didn't know you were knowledgeable about the state and nature of the Universe, Harry. Forget the Bible, I guess I should have consulted you. :)
Incidentally, science, so-called, changes about every 10 years, I guess you have a better handle on it.
Yes Alex, another democrat just canceled you😳 as they truly are masters of debate 🤔
I don't think Harry is a democrat.
Alex, you’re not following it correctly. Anyone who does not agree with Harry is in over their head. He is an absolute fool.
Alex, you're in over your head. Do yourself a favor and be quiet! And don't waste the time to respond, I've muted the thread-see above.
I know I'm in over my head because I'm 73, retired and see only idiocy. That, however, doesn't mean I'm wrong or right in my views but I can't do much more than be honest. Maybe I'm absurdly wrong but expressing my perspective may help someone or all of us to understand what is going on. We all paid something to join this group, something brought us to pay for these ideas.
Harry, you may be overwhelmed but maybe your ideas will allow more insight. Certainly some descension is always necessary to find reality or a positive direction.
I don't know what muted means, but here I am, responding...
Ugh, more depressed liberals writing about their governments incompetence.
You're probably right, WFE...sad that opposing viewpoints are met with personal hostility instead of doing verbal battle on the field of ideas..I'm not for an echo chamber, and have had my mind changed by a persuasive, well-thought out argument. But not by snarky insult, which seems to be the lefty way to converse these days.