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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Can't we just be honest. This is the U.S. Government's proxy war with Russia. The Ukrainians are playing the part of "useful idiot." A little diplomacy would have prevented this tragedy. Our woke leaders wanted this proxy war. They could care less how many innocent Ukrainians will be sacrificed. Putin's not our enemy; its our woke leaders. Its gallow time :-)

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John S's avatar

Not sure you'll score a lot of brownie points with most of the readers here, but for what it's worth I tend to agree with your sentiments - allowing for the fact that none of us really know what's going on. It's a proxy war for sure, but unlike most of the others the US has got involved in this could blow up big time - it's way to close to home, as far as the Russians are concerned; so they "win" or potentially we all lose

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

According to a recent CNN poll 52 percent of Americans oppose the Biden Regime's disastrous Ukraine policy. When the Democrats lose CNN its similar to the Republicans losing Fox News. It looks like the Sheeple are finally beginning to realize they've been duped. Once they wake up it will be open season on the Bolsheviks/Jacobins/Woketards :-)

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John S's avatar

We can only hope!!

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AFriend's avatar

You should move to Russia with your buddy, Putin.

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RAB's avatar

You're "AFriend" of whom? I'm confused.

Some "Dear Readers" haven't figured out that the most dangerous and immoral enemy we face is the global deep state and our own governments, whether Biden or Trump or Trudeau or Johnson or Macron or Morrison or Ardern or Putin or Zelensky or Mr. Xi is at the helm. If you support any of them, then you are not "AFriend" of mine.

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Dorothy's avatar

Then who do you support??

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RAB's avatar

The question is not "who" to support, but "what" to support. After determining "what" to support, it's much easier to recognize "who" to support. My suggestion is to look into the principles of individual freedom found in Natural Law, true (free-market) capitalism, the non-aggression principle, etc. The most prolific violators of the principles of individual freedom are the global deep state and all of the governments and politicians it controls. These elite and their man-made "laws" (non-Natural Laws) seek to enslave, not free, the masses. If you will permit me another suggestion, it is the system of self-government called "anarchy" (meaning "no ruler," and NOT meaning "chaos") and the people that adhere to it that best serve the ideas and principles of individual freedom. Support the principles of freedom first. Then support the people that support the principles. Although the loosely associated group that is sometimes labeled "anarchist" or "anarcho-capitalist" or "voluntaryist" is becoming larger and stronger, people are human and they do waver and stray, so it's best to follow principles, not people. I believe Bill Bonner is a great proponent of these principles although he doesn't overtly label himself. Other names with free content to check out: Doug Casey, Larken Rose, Robert Breedlove, Mark Passio (on Natural Law, especially his Omni Hotel series) -- all excellent for those who want to skip the noise and get right to the heart of the subject and our predicament.

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Don’t hold your breath my little Jacobin Friend. This American ain’t going nowhere🤠

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

The west's woke leaders are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian. Doesn't matter how long this war goes on the result was predestined; Ukraine will lose. Just say no to woke :-)

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Sean Ring nailed it:

• There’s nothing the US, EU, and UK has that Russia needs.

• There are many things Russia has that the US, EU, and UK need.

• The US, EU, and UK have proven themselves utterly untrustworthy as asset custodians.

• Thanks to stupid Western policy, the China’s Belt and Road Initiative is now a must for the “World Island.”

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Steve L's avatar

Yes, elections have consequences, and those corrupt elections world wide, always voting in the globalist, will prove to be the breaking point for the people. I believe America will revolt if we have another fraudulent fiasco this coming November, and the next "insurgency" in Washington will not be political theatre. Europe will follow as the good people start to go hungry and freeze.

As I stated in the past, let Russia have the Ukraine, China, Taiwan and Mexico, California. As honest elected officials, by the people and for the people are put back into office, and the old corruptors have been hung, the world may come back to some form of sanity again. Maybe...

In the meantime, we need to focus on the coming collapse, praying it doesn't come, but as days pass, and the insanity continues on a scale that we haven't seen since the depression and great wars. Yes, we have been here before, and history sure is rhyming...just different players of the same demented game of human nature...

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Don Harrell's avatar

Now, let me get this straight. Our destruction of one fourth of our energy capacity, could be used now that we see shortages in the world that we might capitalize on. Seems Trump told Merkel not to trust Russian energy to save Germany from freezing. Now, look at all that capacity going to waste because our dear leader says we not gonna use "fossil fuels" no more. Where did that term come from? Would be next to impossible for that many critters to die in one or two spots. So now we can sit on our vast energy reserves, with no gas, no diesel, no oil no hope and watch as the Russians take over Europe. Did I mention, no food or baby food! Seems we should get some folks in leadership that can see past that nose of Crazy ole Cortez cause he ain't cutting it!! just sayin'

Don Harrell

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Juan's avatar

We got it Bill , you don’t like Biden and fancy Vlad ...

The west that got it all wrong and Vlady all right ...

You say not taking side but that’s not the case since the 24th of February I read , we read your missives and no mistake by now you must be speaking fluently Russian . It s your right to choose your camp like is mine to tell you I disagree with the invasion of Ukraine... of course we on the west did a lot of mistake since 2014 , but no justification for what’s happening in Ukraine.

One last thing ... you like charts and numbers so do I .

Since 1900 I do not record any invader who did not finish as a looser ... to name Germany twice , France I the 50’s once , Egypt, Syria, once, USA I stop counting ... history will tell but Vlady doesn’t have the numbers on his side .

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Michael C's avatar

Bill loves to stir the pot, and spin the scenarios as he does it rather well. In this case, would he have the world wink and nod to Russia, just let them take what they want, and we lose all that arms business? Whose side are you on.

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Juan's avatar

My side has nothing to do the arms busines .

I call the USA and the British invaders and criminals when they went to Irak , was I a fan of Houssein ... No .

The USA in Vietnam same thing

In the other hand they came twice to Help and Save Europe ... by now you may see which camp I am in .

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Worm Farmer extraordinaire's avatar

We are few on this site. I am sorry for Ukraine but that is where I am. No help!!! We need help here.

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Juan's avatar

I don’t think I mention to help Ukraine , just that I am against any country invading an other country .

That I am so sad to see that is always the same who suffer ... I ll will help both side if needed , because In the same situation I d like to be treated the same . My concern

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Seahobo@protonmail.com's avatar

Jaun, Ukraine,Russia, France and UK signed a peace agreement in 2014. Ukraine was to be neutral, but from day one used the next 8 years to rebuild its army, receiving weapons and ammunition from NATO and continued to shell Russian speaking Ukrainians, killing 14,000 of them. Being a guarantor Russia was under an obligation to enforce that agreement as was France, Germany and the UK. Like too many treaties before the NATO members ignored the treaty then broke it by arming the Ukraine. Russia was the only nation to honor the treaty and moved to protect the Russian speaking citizens. Those are the facts, the rest is propaganda.

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Michael C's avatar

Arms business is just humor in a humorless circumstance.

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Juan's avatar

Yes I lost by humor talking about this conflict, but join me in any financial one I got plenty of jokes .

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Steve L's avatar

It's amazing the "facts" we get from reading books, and avoiding the daily lies we are told from our propagandized main stream media. Really cannot have an "educated" opinion based on the corrupt information we receive...

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Mark1's avatar

It’s interesting to me that a guy like Bill, who fills his essays with historical facts, barely mentions the Holodomor. I’m sure he has, but I can’t remember when. It’s an interesting 5 minute read about the genocide committed against the Ukrainians by their not so friendly neighboring Russians. It explains to me, at least, why the Ukrainians may be willing to fight to the end. And Russian targeting of civilians tells me that that old mind set of “kill them all” persists.

Most everyone understands the Jewish perspective regarding the holocaust. Maybe it’s a more acceptable form of genocide to intentionally starve 4-6 million people in their own country as opposed to loading them up in trains to a death camp?

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GB's avatar

Try the book

Frontline Ukraine

Crisis in the Borderlands

by Richard Sakwa

Bloomsbury Academic Press

It isn't just the US who has "Sphere's of influence."

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Mark1's avatar

And for those who don’t like to read, there’s a decent movie about that period. It’s “Mr. Jones”.

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Juan's avatar

Let’s agree that we disagree

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

We're witnessing Europe committing economic suicide. Sooner rather than later Europeans will need to rise up and promptly march their woke leaders to the gallows. Sheep are used to a good shearing, but this time it'll be a barbecue.

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GB's avatar

Already happening, Dutch Farmers protesting against the Green initiatives their Government imposes. What baffles me is how the Dutch and Canadians keep voting in their leaders. Perhaps both need independent observers to check IF the votes are being counted correctly because how Trudeau or the Dutch guy are repeatedly elected is very baffling.

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Putin will outlast every western woke leader.

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Great quote from G. Edward Griffin: "The reason why we have inflation is that the money supply is not pegged to something that takes human effort to produce." All roads lead back to the nonsensical lockdowns.

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A.L.'s avatar

One thing I have thought of, is since Ukraine is preoccupied by war, there haven't been many cyber crimes.

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Juan's avatar

On more comment, winter will come and Germany will learn to its detriment to rely on Russia for his energy and else ... the west we pay the price and deserve to pay for not being more inventing on such issue ... but I believe that down the road will be better off getting it from places where we share the same values even paying a higher price Financially but keeping our honor ... I d rather a Churchill that a Chamberlin

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

If the EU falls, the US has no one to sell to.

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Bud Reid's avatar

Let’s see, it’s been said the U. S. annual military arms production would only last ten days to two weeks of combat in Ukraine. So should we step it up and keep supporting a lost cause? Some have suggested we go full retard and bomb Moscow. Let’s say for arguments sake that we do both, then what should the U.S. response be when China makes their move to take over Taiwan? Send bombers to Beijing? If of course we have any left after our war with Russia.

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GB's avatar

IF the US bombed Moscow, we wouldn't have to worry about Taiwan, in fact very few of us would be around to worry about anything.

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Bud Reid's avatar

That is true! Lol. I don’t really expect that to happen though, I was merely mocking the reference that another commenter made. I do think however that as we become more involved in Ukraine, we shouldn’t forget about China and Taiwan. I think they will at a time of their own choosing make their move and then what will the response from the U. S. be?

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Chris's avatar

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE RUSSIAN MILITARY! Look at how they fought in WW2. They didn’t have the best weapons but made up for that with sheer dogged resistance and reckless disregard for human life.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

The children "leading" us have no interest in contemplating that fact...

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Lyndon Bradish's avatar

"But with so much fawning coverage by the Western media – about how the valiant freedom fighters in Kyiy are kicking Russia’s butt – we’re beginning to wonder. There’s always more to the story; what is it? "

Remind me of the daily reports of dead Viet Cong on CBS news. Turns out any dead Vietnamese was frequently counted as a dead VC. And also this battle and that battle was victorious for the American forces while the VC got their butt kicked...

Napalm, cluster bombs, land mines (politely called anti-personnel thingie) all use being subject to a war crime event, but not. Even My Lai was a joke, well at least for Calley (i may have misspelled his name but that is immaterial).

So the war machine propaganda is clearly in good shape for this Ukraine-Russia war.

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GB's avatar

With so many Ukrainian victories, I"m surprised the front line is not currently some 100's of miles East of Moscow.

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Dorothy's avatar

Great article...Thanks!

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