What Miran is describing is from the ‘free lunch’ school of economics, where the US can receive billions in tariff tax income without taking anything away from the consumers and producers who pay it.
Speak for yourself, O well-insulated, out-of-touch, irrelevant billionaire. It could not be MORE obvious:
"𝙒𝙚" are the people that actually BUILT this Country and are responsible for its continued existence - y'know, the kind of people who get up everyday and put "hand-to-plow" by being Productive and actually making the world a better place through our thoughts, words and actions. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones that respect our Laws, Traditions and Neighbors by always being willing to help a stranger, do the right thing or right a wrong even at personal expense - all while abiding by the Laws as passed by our duly-elected Representatives. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who care about our Families and Communities - and WILL push back when our "government" and "leaders" decide that the immigrant is more important than the Citizen, the "teacher" is more important than the Student, or the criminal is more important than the Victim. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who Honor (and even Worship) a Higher Power, realizing that "𝙒𝙚" are NOT God and that not a single one of the people we see around us is an accident - "𝙒𝙚" acknowledge that each individual is made in the image of God and is worthy of Respect and Dignity. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who remember and understand the excellent Documents upon which our Nation is founded - "𝙒𝙚" remember what it means to love our Country, believe in what our Traditions represent and "𝙒𝙚" are willing to fight against the forces that want to see our Society overthrown and all Patriots put to death. "𝙒𝙚" don't condone violence or murder simply because we disagree with someone and can't successfully dispute their argument, nor do "𝙒𝙚" tacitly support such evil by displaying a glaring silence with regard to the scum among us who publicly and vocally dance on the graves of the assassinated. "𝙒𝙚" are the people who got the United States to where she is now - and "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who will save her from the "theys."
Sorry to say it, Little Bill, but you have firmly shown us which group you fall into.....
You just said it best! Thank you for being so articulate in explaining why some of us choose to believe that we can save this great country. The only thing we need is more people understanding that we can do it. With God’s help, we’re going to get to a better place and we can’t do it without everyone believing in the concept. And …Thank you for defending my position!
Once again, I thank you personally Starboard for taking the time to respond to Mr bill’s incomprehensible insults. I just don’t have the patience, nor the time. You’re a treasure my friend.
Bill, Can you even write anything anymore without showing your TDS? IMHO, we didn’t sign up and pay for your political viewpoints which is akin to how entertainers seem to think we pay for a concert but then get to hear their liberal BS rather than being entertained. I have followed you for years and sincerely appreciate your financial acumen. PLEASE can you just go back to writing about that and stop thinking that we (collectively) actually care what your negative political opinions are. The corruption and evil in government (and elites) has always been part of this world and you’d have to be dead to not know that. I personally think that you have no clue as to what has really been going on in our world and ignore the extent of escalation in the last 60 years. “They” haven’t been silent in their intent. Paul Harvey identified it in his famous “If I Were the Devil” way back in 1965. Your era as well. How novel that there might be more going on than meets the eye to rid us of those that are destroying us and that seems to totally elude you. I choose to look on the positive side and think there is actually a possibility that there are those behind the scenes that have been working to this end; for YEARS. I’m not alone in this thought. Respectfully, I suggest you start reading some of the other posters on SubStack that maybe can prompt you to delve deeper. Try Burning Bright or Badlands Media: Devolution, although there are many more with the belief that there are forces of good in play to give us back what has been taken. You can widen your eyes if you’re willing to open your mind to something other than negativity.
I watched the Charlie Kirk tribute. It was long, many speakers. I am a believer; I was gratified. There were 100k, We, there. I define that as “salt of the earth” that produce good. I am skeptical, withheld my opinion on whether or not some speakers were wearing halos or horns.
When the trumpet sounds, we will know. We can know them by their fruits. It is a choice, God or mammon, it is actions not rhetoric.
I am glad Trump is President, it is interesting; he might have a plan that might not work but, at least he has a plan.
I like America better already.
There were no rioters, no violence and the widow forgave the killer.
Christ is “The way and the truth,” and “The truth shall set you free”, and give appreciation and peace. Only a true believer and keeper of the Word knows that.
There is good and evil personified, spiritually and in humans.
To put on the Armor of Christ, you need righteousness; righteousness and truth are the answer to all things.
Ann, frankly my dear, I think you are delusional. Hopium isn't going to get you anywhere. Take a read of Neil Howe's "The 4th Turning Is Here" if you dare.
As always, we do NOT see the world the same. You and your ilk have a view and then there are others, like me, that have other views. Just because you are absolutely convinced your view is the Light and the Way, doesn't make you right. But it does make it impossible to consider there may be a crack in your logic. For positives - let's see: 1. Did the Ukraine War end on Day 1?; 2. Has the U.S. deficit been cut?; Is the Gaza genocide been stopped?; Is the US$ becoming stronger?; Does the world trust the U.S. more now?; Are relations stronger with Canada and Mexico?; Is the world closer or further from nuclear war? Just a few - the list could go on and on and on.
Meh, again. Let me cut the legs out from under your exhaustive list with just one little query:
Are we (the US and the World) better off with Trump as our President than we would be right now had the Cackling Toddler been allowed to steal the last election?
Yeah, I know - you don't support her either. But somebody had to win, Mr. Fencesitter - and elections have consequences - so just save wasting keystrokes trying to defend your lack of Convictions.....
Seriously???? That is all you got. The U.S. and the world is better off because Harris lost. Trump is an idiot, he has no strategy. And, his approval rating 37% with 55% opposed. Oh, Yeah - he is leading the U.S. to the promise land! Hallelujah! The World is so glad he is in charge. Talk about delusional................do you think calling all the other leaders of the world "stupid" is wise. Just because a clown is elected, doesn't make Washington a Kingdom, it just makes it a Circus! Get a grip........
Mr. OL' LSO: So you supported VP Harris for POTUS Nov. 2024? And you supported the Democrats taking control of the House & Senate Nov. 2024? In other words, you support a continuation of an open border to enable tens of millions more illegal alien peasants to pour into the U.S.? And an immediate mass amnesty which would provide citizenship (with all sorts of govt. aid) and voting rights to 20M illegal alien peasants, 98% who would vote for unlimited amounts of additional govt. aid? You support trans men in women's sports, locker rooms, and restrooms? You support an increase in gun control measures, onerous regulations on private domestic businesses, & fascist tactics like Big Gov. working with Big Corp. to continue on-line suppression of conservative viewpoints? (Google had to stop this now that the GOP is in control.) You support shipping even more good jobs overseas to authoritarian-run countries? You support a law enabling abortion on demand right up to birth? You support multi-national treaties promoted by authoritarian countries? You support even more govt. control of health care so that talented doctors and dentists have to treat poorer patients, forcing middle-class patients to stand in line behind these poorer patients, while rich leftists buy their way out via concierge health care? All these would have occurred had Democrats taken the WH and Congress Nov. 2024.
My point this that because of all the U.S.-based, good-paying jobs shipped overseas for the past 27-28 years to authoritarian countries that work and pay their people like animals, the U.S. Fed has had to step in and keep employment up (or keep unemployment down) in the U.S. by directly or indirectly creating trillions in debt via interest rate reduction and QE. This has caused the debt-to-GDP ratio to rise over those years from 35% (1998) to over 100% (2025). So the US. went form having low debt and low unemployment in 2000, to having huge debt and low unemployment in 2025. So shipping jobs overseas was a disaster. I read an article that indicated that the so-called tech revolution only replaced about a quarter of manufacturing jobs shipped overseas.
So in 2025, with so many U.S. jobs now depending on enormous debt to keep them propped up, the GOP would be committing political suicide to start trying to balance the budget by slashing the debt, because as the debt is reduced, so are jobs. This is the pickle that the U.S. is in. Look at Argentina recently. Pres. Milei was able to cut debt by a bit, but now his debt cutting has been overruled by the Argentine Congress by enormous numbers. In some cases by 85%-90%. So that means his own supporters are terrified the folks they represent will lose their jobs. So his party and aligned parties would be pulverized in the upcoming elections. Voters around the world, not just in the U.S. are hooked on debt, mostly via their jobs. So debt reduction has to be very GRADUAL over a long period of time. The Left has shown no inclination to ever cut debt. They talk about taxing billionaires, but billionaires are the main supporters of their campaigns, and would just move their money overseas. And if the Left cut the military budget, they would not use the money to reduce debt because of all the military employee and contractor jobs lost. The Left would simply hire ten million more social service workers and increase more govt. aid to poor and lazy Americans to obtain their votes each election. More free stuff.
So Pres. Trump and the GOP are trying to do what they can to hold onto power by yes, increasing debt, BUT also trying to stimulate the economy via tariffs, tax cuts, rate cuts, regulation cuts, energy independence, etc. Do I want more debt by supporting their plan? Of course not. All this debt accumulation is terrible. But considering the alternatives, as stated in my first paragraph about the Left, this is the best, most realistic, alternative plan. This is especially so when considering continued open borders and mass amnesty with the Left in power, which would destroy the U.S., and almost certainly cause it to break apart, with the South and Farm Belt leading the way.
Frank, I applaud your effort. However, this ol' LSO is not a democratic - never have and never will be. Just because someone doesn't like Trump's policies or his attitude, doesn't make that person anti-conservative. Jumping to conclusions isn't the way forward. And, I find it hard to understand how increasing the debt and using tariffs/sanctions is going to help anybody. I get it - you like the TACO Clown because he is a bully. I get it you hate the left. I get that too - I think the left are nuts too. But Trump's actions aren't going to make America Great Again. Just the opposite - he is accelerating the demise of the U.S. hegemony and has the US$ tanks so shall the U.S. Trump along with all the administrations probably back to JFK, have forced the world to understand the U.S. is a war-mongering country and not to be trusted. Just look - what gave the U.S. power is the petro-dollar and now that is history. With today's technology our military isn't the mighty stick that Trump and the neocons think it is. Look at well that worked out against Yemen. Failures is all our numerous wars have been since Korea. One right after another. But - warmongering we do. So, it isn't others destroying America, it is America doing it to itself. The vast majority of the world is turning away and EU has become a immigrant slum with the economies crashing. Soon at least the UK and France are going to request a bail-out from the IMF. Unbelievable! You can smoke Trump's hopium if you like. I'll remain a cynical conservative and not drink the kool-aid.
blah blah blH - YOU MUST OF THOUGHT THE GREAT ONE was a seer. How many other politicians make promises that are not only not kept, ar never brought up once in office. Get off your high horse, you certainly don't know what will hppen so all you are doing is crying. Crying and crying.
Ol' stuff - it is so amazin' to see your wonderful command of the English language. Your mother must be so proud of you. I must bow down to your polemic use of words. And, of course, anyone - anyone at all - that dares to doubt the veracity of your views must be have a severe case of copium. Those of us roaming Bill's Comment page are so thankful for being able to have your views so eloquently provided. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Took almost two hours for your rebuttal, looks like you spent that time research $1000.00 words to try and demonstrate your cognitive skill, however, reading through your other blather on these posts, we all now you have the bed next to Joe Biden. Does it smell in the room too?
Mr. LSO. I agree with all your statements or most of them in your post. However, the southern border is closed,, he told the UN and climate change is a scam, he is trying to get men out of women, sports and many other important things! But it does seem to me no matter how many good things Mr. Trump does and I voted for him three times the basic concept of spending and war never stops. Never. This is going to get so ugly. May God bless us all.💕🇺🇸🙏
Trump is doing many good things - just the critical issues are being missed or badly played. I agree - fighting wokeness, transgender craziness, and climate change idiocracy are great and sorely needed. But, the deficit, the continuing wars, and turning most of the countries of the World against us will send America into isolation and depression. I understand he has recently SILENTLY reduced tariffs on many countries because America is not self-sufficient and needs imports. Can't have it both ways and he just can't stand-down from his Bully Pulpit. But - certainly better than another 4 years with Harris and her tribe.
Ol’ MAN, the incoming barrage you directed upon yourself has been impressive. Remind me not to hire you as a Forward Observer!
However…”hopium”…that IS funny right there (might have to steal that.) I’m betting you took a lot of it during the glorious “hope and change” years of Our Dear Leader, BarryO. Also betting you got a nice, smug, feeling voting (twice) for him.
Sluggo, good to hear from ya. No, I won't be your Forward Observer. I have the greatest respect for those though. I was an A-7 pilot and thankful for those guys. Crazy job........P.S. Never voted for Harris, Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc.
Right on Ann, don't listen to Bills brother an Ol'lso, he typically spews poison asif he is going to have an impact. lol, meanwhile there are those of us out here killing it with gold, gold mining and crypto. You have to go where the money us, the days of buy and hold - gone, or SIt on the sidelines and wait......and wait....... and wait. Now to be fair, Tom's view on shipping has been a part of my climb and it helped me almost double in the last six months.
Tim - fully agree. Those "knuckleheads" in Washington need a glass bellybutton to see because they have their heads so far up. Instead of realizing it is a "multi-polar" world and developing a path forward to help the U.S. grow and prosperity, they just double-down on whatever they can so they maintain their power and privileges. And, who suffers, us minions/peons. While there are many who say - the U.S. should do this or should do that - the problem is the U.S. won't. There is an ol' saying by John Paul Jones - "If the ship goes, we go with it - our place is here!" And, unfortunately, that is what is happening in D.C. Going to be truly ugly and not sure - given no mushrooms - what the horrific consequences us peons will suffer.
must be Bill's brother...blah blah blah, yet markets continue to ascend. Gold, gold miners offering great stocks (not over stretched crapola) - take an antacid.
Markets will ascend until they do not . There is a limit, a peak . You and I do not and con not see this peak , but it is there. I think better to be prepared and on time then to be a second to late. But then My life does not revolve around making money . Yep , money sure helps . I need it to buy My morning coffee!
I was wrong. Netanyahu did say that. Both countries governments are getting out of control. Israel needs to get rid of Netanyahu and the Palestenians need to get rid of Hamas. Governments around the world are so corrupt. Why can’t the world population live in peace and prosperity. Corruption in governments is evil.
I love most of your idea here. My fear is that Israel has already moved past the 2 state idea and is looking at this as a land and resources grab. But again, let me stress, I would love to see peace for both sides in this awful situation.
I agree. let one of the arab countries carve out a state for them within their own property lines and far away from those that they hate and are committed to destroy.
Two states maybe, definitely not next to each other .
Mr. Porter now I know once and for all that you were an antisemite. Shame on you.😂😂 Mr. Netanyahu is a lovely man who only wants peace and prosperity for the Middle East. He’s done near perfect in my opinion excellent man of character!😂😂 the problem with fools like you is if you say one tiny tiny tiny thing negative about Israel, you ship birds come out calling everyone antisemitic. Pick your head out of your rear end. Just go back to slavishly loving Israel, no matter what they do.
I did know that. Bibi is getting out of hand. My hope was to get rid of Hamas and create a 2 state solution where Israelis and Palestenians can live in peace and prosperity. Both governments are as corrupt as can be. Netanyahu needs to be removed and Hamas needs to be irradicated.
there already is a two state, Jordan. 95% of what they are calling palestinians originate in Jordan. Funny tho, Jordan don't want em, Egypt don't want em, in fact no Arab country ill take even a small %. Why? I think you know.
Mr porter. Agreed, it is hard to have a conversation with someone with such vile language. I can see you have not gained much from the fruits of the spirit. I would I would suggest trying harder.
OK, I am a Trump fan, but as almost all of us do wish sometimes he would not say this or that thing. His address to the UN yesterday was 100% correct, and it all needed saying even though there is very little chance that the people he was talking to will change a single destructive policy they are pursuing. We can "hope" that Bill is not correct about what Trump and the two "Stevens" are doing with our economy, but there is logic in his argument. The debt is still totally out of control, and I must admit to doubting that Trump or anyone can devise a plan to bring it under control. Yes, buying some gold and silver, and their stocks does seem like a decent plan!
"Where do they get people like Stephen Miran? And the other Stephen...Stephen Miller? These are guys for whom political power is a way to prove that they aren’t the dislikable twerps that everyone thinks they are. They get power by bellying up to the Big Man. Then, they use it as he would — bullying rivals with tariffs, sanctions, and worse."
Once Bongo has finished his stream of insults, he does make a point or two, but you have to wade through his cesspool thought process to find anything worthwhile. Bongo thinks the two Stephens' are "dislikable twerps". Time to look in the mirror, Billy boy. There is no bigger one than you.
Hit the nail on the head. Mr Bill’s gratuitous insults are really helpful in the debates about President Trumps policies, NOT. And then his monitors on here wonder why the “debate” degenerates?!? Thanks for being such a statesman bill.
There is a wide gulf of disagreement between Bill and many of his subscribers here about the outcome of Trumponomics. The current stock market is sure Trump will be vindicated and that the market will continue on to a permanently higher plateau. I think we will have a resolution of the debate by late winter or spring when Trump gets his new Fed Chair and his wished for lower interest rates. What will Mr. Market say then? Read "The Price of Time: The Real Story of Interest" by Edward Chancellor to get the answer. History says it won't be pretty.
The swamp will never be drained because all politicians call the swamp home to one degree or another. They'd love for all Americans to become lesser swamp creatures, dependents willingly trade their freedom for a managed life, from birth until the grim reaper calls.
Trump via MAGA hijacked and then redirected The Tea Party bringing all under the wing of the Republican Party. If left to its own resources the Tea Party would have eventually restored the Constitutional authority to Congress. The Tea Party was the beginning of a new American revolution. Gone would be the Federal Reserve and Pentagon, neither of these to will be gone under MAGA.
The left has been screaming to increase corporate taxes or add VAT taxes to bring in more tax revenue. Aren't tariffs basically the same thing - in other words whenever taxes are raised someone pays - consumers, importers, exporters, everyone and of course revenues are not as high as forecast. Same old same old. Surprised that we don't get more reporting on how much tariff revenue has been raised. It is a drop in the deficit bucket
“In a year or two, the ratio — Dow/Gold — will be near our ‘5’ trigger.”…been hearing this prediction ever since I subscribed here, a few sets of “in a year or two” ago’s.
Got another prediction, Mr. Bonner: the sun’s gonna burn out in 4 or 5 billion years. Hey, it’s just as precise as your economic calamity calls.
A year or two. At least mr bill made a prediction. But I guess if the two Stephens are in charge, he won’t follow his own advice? Typical of bill lately, clear as mud.
While the real culprit is spending and financing via Inflate or Die, the Volvo buying argument is a specious if not laughable argument. Do not see any mechanism where Volvo sales drive trade or the imbalance pf trade. Perhaps a look at Airbus sales?.
SBE- When slinging emotions at least make a compelling argument against and perhaps a solution for a the OOC spending.... I contact my duly elected reps weekly to impress upon them the importance of spending rescissions and constraints
Not an unreasonable view of the future. The only thing I'm not sure about Bill is the plan for the US Dollar-- might they want it to decline against other currencies? US Goods would be more competitive in the world markets...
"𝘞𝘩𝘰 “𝘸𝘦” 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘴 𝘮𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘢 𝘮𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘢𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘰 “𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺” 𝘢𝘳𝘦."
Speak for yourself, O well-insulated, out-of-touch, irrelevant billionaire. It could not be MORE obvious:
"𝙒𝙚" are the people that actually BUILT this Country and are responsible for its continued existence - y'know, the kind of people who get up everyday and put "hand-to-plow" by being Productive and actually making the world a better place through our thoughts, words and actions. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones that respect our Laws, Traditions and Neighbors by always being willing to help a stranger, do the right thing or right a wrong even at personal expense - all while abiding by the Laws as passed by our duly-elected Representatives. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who care about our Families and Communities - and WILL push back when our "government" and "leaders" decide that the immigrant is more important than the Citizen, the "teacher" is more important than the Student, or the criminal is more important than the Victim. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who Honor (and even Worship) a Higher Power, realizing that "𝙒𝙚" are NOT God and that not a single one of the people we see around us is an accident - "𝙒𝙚" acknowledge that each individual is made in the image of God and is worthy of Respect and Dignity. "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who remember and understand the excellent Documents upon which our Nation is founded - "𝙒𝙚" remember what it means to love our Country, believe in what our Traditions represent and "𝙒𝙚" are willing to fight against the forces that want to see our Society overthrown and all Patriots put to death. "𝙒𝙚" don't condone violence or murder simply because we disagree with someone and can't successfully dispute their argument, nor do "𝙒𝙚" tacitly support such evil by displaying a glaring silence with regard to the scum among us who publicly and vocally dance on the graves of the assassinated. "𝙒𝙚" are the people who got the United States to where she is now - and "𝙒𝙚" are the ones who will save her from the "theys."
Sorry to say it, Little Bill, but you have firmly shown us which group you fall into.....
You just said it best! Thank you for being so articulate in explaining why some of us choose to believe that we can save this great country. The only thing we need is more people understanding that we can do it. With God’s help, we’re going to get to a better place and we can’t do it without everyone believing in the concept. And …Thank you for defending my position!
Once again, I thank you personally Starboard for taking the time to respond to Mr bill’s incomprehensible insults. I just don’t have the patience, nor the time. You’re a treasure my friend.
Well said Starboardedge.
Well, said Mr. Star!🇺🇸🇺🇸
Bill, Can you even write anything anymore without showing your TDS? IMHO, we didn’t sign up and pay for your political viewpoints which is akin to how entertainers seem to think we pay for a concert but then get to hear their liberal BS rather than being entertained. I have followed you for years and sincerely appreciate your financial acumen. PLEASE can you just go back to writing about that and stop thinking that we (collectively) actually care what your negative political opinions are. The corruption and evil in government (and elites) has always been part of this world and you’d have to be dead to not know that. I personally think that you have no clue as to what has really been going on in our world and ignore the extent of escalation in the last 60 years. “They” haven’t been silent in their intent. Paul Harvey identified it in his famous “If I Were the Devil” way back in 1965. Your era as well. How novel that there might be more going on than meets the eye to rid us of those that are destroying us and that seems to totally elude you. I choose to look on the positive side and think there is actually a possibility that there are those behind the scenes that have been working to this end; for YEARS. I’m not alone in this thought. Respectfully, I suggest you start reading some of the other posters on SubStack that maybe can prompt you to delve deeper. Try Burning Bright or Badlands Media: Devolution, although there are many more with the belief that there are forces of good in play to give us back what has been taken. You can widen your eyes if you’re willing to open your mind to something other than negativity.
I watched the Charlie Kirk tribute. It was long, many speakers. I am a believer; I was gratified. There were 100k, We, there. I define that as “salt of the earth” that produce good. I am skeptical, withheld my opinion on whether or not some speakers were wearing halos or horns.
When the trumpet sounds, we will know. We can know them by their fruits. It is a choice, God or mammon, it is actions not rhetoric.
I am glad Trump is President, it is interesting; he might have a plan that might not work but, at least he has a plan.
I like America better already.
There were no rioters, no violence and the widow forgave the killer.
Christ is “The way and the truth,” and “The truth shall set you free”, and give appreciation and peace. Only a true believer and keeper of the Word knows that.
There is good and evil personified, spiritually and in humans.
To put on the Armor of Christ, you need righteousness; righteousness and truth are the answer to all things.
And, the human brain needs help, inspiration.
Well, said Mr. Xavier!
Ann, frankly my dear, I think you are delusional. Hopium isn't going to get you anywhere. Take a read of Neil Howe's "The 4th Turning Is Here" if you dare.
Meh. Ann pretty much nailed it - particularly with her excellent concert analogy.
Delusional? Take a look in the mirror.....
As always, we do NOT see the world the same. You and your ilk have a view and then there are others, like me, that have other views. Just because you are absolutely convinced your view is the Light and the Way, doesn't make you right. But it does make it impossible to consider there may be a crack in your logic. For positives - let's see: 1. Did the Ukraine War end on Day 1?; 2. Has the U.S. deficit been cut?; Is the Gaza genocide been stopped?; Is the US$ becoming stronger?; Does the world trust the U.S. more now?; Are relations stronger with Canada and Mexico?; Is the world closer or further from nuclear war? Just a few - the list could go on and on and on.
Meh, again. Let me cut the legs out from under your exhaustive list with just one little query:
Are we (the US and the World) better off with Trump as our President than we would be right now had the Cackling Toddler been allowed to steal the last election?
Yeah, I know - you don't support her either. But somebody had to win, Mr. Fencesitter - and elections have consequences - so just save wasting keystrokes trying to defend your lack of Convictions.....
Seriously???? That is all you got. The U.S. and the world is better off because Harris lost. Trump is an idiot, he has no strategy. And, his approval rating 37% with 55% opposed. Oh, Yeah - he is leading the U.S. to the promise land! Hallelujah! The World is so glad he is in charge. Talk about delusional................do you think calling all the other leaders of the world "stupid" is wise. Just because a clown is elected, doesn't make Washington a Kingdom, it just makes it a Circus! Get a grip........
if you can call trump an idiot, wow what does that make you. You sound as if you should be sitting behind the resolute desk. God help us.
The world order folks believe that stupid is wise. You summed up Trump's speech very well.
Mr. OL' LSO: So you supported VP Harris for POTUS Nov. 2024? And you supported the Democrats taking control of the House & Senate Nov. 2024? In other words, you support a continuation of an open border to enable tens of millions more illegal alien peasants to pour into the U.S.? And an immediate mass amnesty which would provide citizenship (with all sorts of govt. aid) and voting rights to 20M illegal alien peasants, 98% who would vote for unlimited amounts of additional govt. aid? You support trans men in women's sports, locker rooms, and restrooms? You support an increase in gun control measures, onerous regulations on private domestic businesses, & fascist tactics like Big Gov. working with Big Corp. to continue on-line suppression of conservative viewpoints? (Google had to stop this now that the GOP is in control.) You support shipping even more good jobs overseas to authoritarian-run countries? You support a law enabling abortion on demand right up to birth? You support multi-national treaties promoted by authoritarian countries? You support even more govt. control of health care so that talented doctors and dentists have to treat poorer patients, forcing middle-class patients to stand in line behind these poorer patients, while rich leftists buy their way out via concierge health care? All these would have occurred had Democrats taken the WH and Congress Nov. 2024.
My point this that because of all the U.S.-based, good-paying jobs shipped overseas for the past 27-28 years to authoritarian countries that work and pay their people like animals, the U.S. Fed has had to step in and keep employment up (or keep unemployment down) in the U.S. by directly or indirectly creating trillions in debt via interest rate reduction and QE. This has caused the debt-to-GDP ratio to rise over those years from 35% (1998) to over 100% (2025). So the US. went form having low debt and low unemployment in 2000, to having huge debt and low unemployment in 2025. So shipping jobs overseas was a disaster. I read an article that indicated that the so-called tech revolution only replaced about a quarter of manufacturing jobs shipped overseas.
So in 2025, with so many U.S. jobs now depending on enormous debt to keep them propped up, the GOP would be committing political suicide to start trying to balance the budget by slashing the debt, because as the debt is reduced, so are jobs. This is the pickle that the U.S. is in. Look at Argentina recently. Pres. Milei was able to cut debt by a bit, but now his debt cutting has been overruled by the Argentine Congress by enormous numbers. In some cases by 85%-90%. So that means his own supporters are terrified the folks they represent will lose their jobs. So his party and aligned parties would be pulverized in the upcoming elections. Voters around the world, not just in the U.S. are hooked on debt, mostly via their jobs. So debt reduction has to be very GRADUAL over a long period of time. The Left has shown no inclination to ever cut debt. They talk about taxing billionaires, but billionaires are the main supporters of their campaigns, and would just move their money overseas. And if the Left cut the military budget, they would not use the money to reduce debt because of all the military employee and contractor jobs lost. The Left would simply hire ten million more social service workers and increase more govt. aid to poor and lazy Americans to obtain their votes each election. More free stuff.
So Pres. Trump and the GOP are trying to do what they can to hold onto power by yes, increasing debt, BUT also trying to stimulate the economy via tariffs, tax cuts, rate cuts, regulation cuts, energy independence, etc. Do I want more debt by supporting their plan? Of course not. All this debt accumulation is terrible. But considering the alternatives, as stated in my first paragraph about the Left, this is the best, most realistic, alternative plan. This is especially so when considering continued open borders and mass amnesty with the Left in power, which would destroy the U.S., and almost certainly cause it to break apart, with the South and Farm Belt leading the way.
Frank, I applaud your effort. However, this ol' LSO is not a democratic - never have and never will be. Just because someone doesn't like Trump's policies or his attitude, doesn't make that person anti-conservative. Jumping to conclusions isn't the way forward. And, I find it hard to understand how increasing the debt and using tariffs/sanctions is going to help anybody. I get it - you like the TACO Clown because he is a bully. I get it you hate the left. I get that too - I think the left are nuts too. But Trump's actions aren't going to make America Great Again. Just the opposite - he is accelerating the demise of the U.S. hegemony and has the US$ tanks so shall the U.S. Trump along with all the administrations probably back to JFK, have forced the world to understand the U.S. is a war-mongering country and not to be trusted. Just look - what gave the U.S. power is the petro-dollar and now that is history. With today's technology our military isn't the mighty stick that Trump and the neocons think it is. Look at well that worked out against Yemen. Failures is all our numerous wars have been since Korea. One right after another. But - warmongering we do. So, it isn't others destroying America, it is America doing it to itself. The vast majority of the world is turning away and EU has become a immigrant slum with the economies crashing. Soon at least the UK and France are going to request a bail-out from the IMF. Unbelievable! You can smoke Trump's hopium if you like. I'll remain a cynical conservative and not drink the kool-aid.
blah blah blH - YOU MUST OF THOUGHT THE GREAT ONE was a seer. How many other politicians make promises that are not only not kept, ar never brought up once in office. Get off your high horse, you certainly don't know what will hppen so all you are doing is crying. Crying and crying.
Ol' stuff - it is so amazin' to see your wonderful command of the English language. Your mother must be so proud of you. I must bow down to your polemic use of words. And, of course, anyone - anyone at all - that dares to doubt the veracity of your views must be have a severe case of copium. Those of us roaming Bill's Comment page are so thankful for being able to have your views so eloquently provided. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Took almost two hours for your rebuttal, looks like you spent that time research $1000.00 words to try and demonstrate your cognitive skill, however, reading through your other blather on these posts, we all now you have the bed next to Joe Biden. Does it smell in the room too?
Mr. LSO. I agree with all your statements or most of them in your post. However, the southern border is closed,, he told the UN and climate change is a scam, he is trying to get men out of women, sports and many other important things! But it does seem to me no matter how many good things Mr. Trump does and I voted for him three times the basic concept of spending and war never stops. Never. This is going to get so ugly. May God bless us all.💕🇺🇸🙏
Trump is doing many good things - just the critical issues are being missed or badly played. I agree - fighting wokeness, transgender craziness, and climate change idiocracy are great and sorely needed. But, the deficit, the continuing wars, and turning most of the countries of the World against us will send America into isolation and depression. I understand he has recently SILENTLY reduced tariffs on many countries because America is not self-sufficient and needs imports. Can't have it both ways and he just can't stand-down from his Bully Pulpit. But - certainly better than another 4 years with Harris and her tribe.
Pun intended. No refextion at all.
Ol’ MAN, the incoming barrage you directed upon yourself has been impressive. Remind me not to hire you as a Forward Observer!
However…”hopium”…that IS funny right there (might have to steal that.) I’m betting you took a lot of it during the glorious “hope and change” years of Our Dear Leader, BarryO. Also betting you got a nice, smug, feeling voting (twice) for him.
Sluggo, good to hear from ya. No, I won't be your Forward Observer. I have the greatest respect for those though. I was an A-7 pilot and thankful for those guys. Crazy job........P.S. Never voted for Harris, Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc.
Mr. Slugo I am not sure he voted for Obama. I would suspect he did not.
Ann Frankly.... That name sounds familiar. I wonder if she
was delusional.
Right on Ann, don't listen to Bills brother an Ol'lso, he typically spews poison asif he is going to have an impact. lol, meanwhile there are those of us out here killing it with gold, gold mining and crypto. You have to go where the money us, the days of buy and hold - gone, or SIt on the sidelines and wait......and wait....... and wait. Now to be fair, Tom's view on shipping has been a part of my climb and it helped me almost double in the last six months.
Same here working stiff. Up 61%YTD! The miners are finally moving!
Thank you Ann, well said!
Loved this: "‘free lunch’ school of economics." I'd like tho add, "this time it's different." Maybe that will get me a spot at the Federal Reserve!
Tim - fully agree. Those "knuckleheads" in Washington need a glass bellybutton to see because they have their heads so far up. Instead of realizing it is a "multi-polar" world and developing a path forward to help the U.S. grow and prosperity, they just double-down on whatever they can so they maintain their power and privileges. And, who suffers, us minions/peons. While there are many who say - the U.S. should do this or should do that - the problem is the U.S. won't. There is an ol' saying by John Paul Jones - "If the ship goes, we go with it - our place is here!" And, unfortunately, that is what is happening in D.C. Going to be truly ugly and not sure - given no mushrooms - what the horrific consequences us peons will suffer.
must be Bill's brother...blah blah blah, yet markets continue to ascend. Gold, gold miners offering great stocks (not over stretched crapola) - take an antacid.
Markets will ascend until they do not . There is a limit, a peak . You and I do not and con not see this peak , but it is there. I think better to be prepared and on time then to be a second to late. But then My life does not revolve around making money . Yep , money sure helps . I need it to buy My morning coffee!
Just a small thing. Volvo was bought by the Chinese and headquarters moved there, 15 years ago. Just sayin’.
Just like MG a car company with a long history of racing, and classic sports car production in England.
Now a Chinese clone.
Cecil Kimber would not be impressed!
I had no idea. I checked , but they did not buy Volvo heavy Trucks. Thank goodness I don't have to change my purchase orders.
BB-Back to your BS. Netanyahu thinks Israel is super Sparta. WOW. Have you heard of Fleets; take an enema; you need it. Stick to economics.
I was wrong. Netanyahu did say that. Both countries governments are getting out of control. Israel needs to get rid of Netanyahu and the Palestenians need to get rid of Hamas. Governments around the world are so corrupt. Why can’t the world population live in peace and prosperity. Corruption in governments is evil.
I love most of your idea here. My fear is that Israel has already moved past the 2 state idea and is looking at this as a land and resources grab. But again, let me stress, I would love to see peace for both sides in this awful situation.
I agree. let one of the arab countries carve out a state for them within their own property lines and far away from those that they hate and are committed to destroy.
Two states maybe, definitely not next to each other .
Mr. Porter now I know once and for all that you were an antisemite. Shame on you.😂😂 Mr. Netanyahu is a lovely man who only wants peace and prosperity for the Middle East. He’s done near perfect in my opinion excellent man of character!😂😂 the problem with fools like you is if you say one tiny tiny tiny thing negative about Israel, you ship birds come out calling everyone antisemitic. Pick your head out of your rear end. Just go back to slavishly loving Israel, no matter what they do.
Well
I guess you think I’m an antisemite Jew
I disagree
Netanyahu is no saint
I think hamas should be irradecated and Netanyahu should retire
Or shot.
That's what Bibi apparently said, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/netanyahu-super-sparta-vision-israel-economic-future-isolation
BDS is real. And it lives here.
BDS might be OK, But getting rid of Hamas should come first. I believe the incursion by Israel would stop once that is accomplished.
Yes it's terrible. The jokes, and the gibes. Statements like "I would never in a month of sundays..." Hard to find love,even in Sparta.
I agree.Big Dick Syndrome, BDS, has been an afliction of mine for most of my life.
I did know that. Bibi is getting out of hand. My hope was to get rid of Hamas and create a 2 state solution where Israelis and Palestenians can live in peace and prosperity. Both governments are as corrupt as can be. Netanyahu needs to be removed and Hamas needs to be irradicated.
there already is a two state, Jordan. 95% of what they are calling palestinians originate in Jordan. Funny tho, Jordan don't want em, Egypt don't want em, in fact no Arab country ill take even a small %. Why? I think you know.
Sorry. I did not know that.
Worm farmer or just a worm
Again antisemite. I understood your mindset better when you slavishly loved everything that state has done. Make up your mind my little Zionist
You are so fu—k stupid that you are not worth having a decent conversation
Mr porter. Agreed, it is hard to have a conversation with someone with such vile language. I can see you have not gained much from the fruits of the spirit. I would I would suggest trying harder.
Netanyahu is leading the six hundred up the blind trail....
OK, I am a Trump fan, but as almost all of us do wish sometimes he would not say this or that thing. His address to the UN yesterday was 100% correct, and it all needed saying even though there is very little chance that the people he was talking to will change a single destructive policy they are pursuing. We can "hope" that Bill is not correct about what Trump and the two "Stevens" are doing with our economy, but there is logic in his argument. The debt is still totally out of control, and I must admit to doubting that Trump or anyone can devise a plan to bring it under control. Yes, buying some gold and silver, and their stocks does seem like a decent plan!
Bongo Bill writes,
"Where do they get people like Stephen Miran? And the other Stephen...Stephen Miller? These are guys for whom political power is a way to prove that they aren’t the dislikable twerps that everyone thinks they are. They get power by bellying up to the Big Man. Then, they use it as he would — bullying rivals with tariffs, sanctions, and worse."
Once Bongo has finished his stream of insults, he does make a point or two, but you have to wade through his cesspool thought process to find anything worthwhile. Bongo thinks the two Stephens' are "dislikable twerps". Time to look in the mirror, Billy boy. There is no bigger one than you.
Hit the nail on the head. Mr Bill’s gratuitous insults are really helpful in the debates about President Trumps policies, NOT. And then his monitors on here wonder why the “debate” degenerates?!? Thanks for being such a statesman bill.
Remember, the gate swings both ways! Once You have looked in the mirror and walk away , all is forgotten!
There is a wide gulf of disagreement between Bill and many of his subscribers here about the outcome of Trumponomics. The current stock market is sure Trump will be vindicated and that the market will continue on to a permanently higher plateau. I think we will have a resolution of the debate by late winter or spring when Trump gets his new Fed Chair and his wished for lower interest rates. What will Mr. Market say then? Read "The Price of Time: The Real Story of Interest" by Edward Chancellor to get the answer. History says it won't be pretty.
The global winter of discontent is near !
The swamp will never be drained because all politicians call the swamp home to one degree or another. They'd love for all Americans to become lesser swamp creatures, dependents willingly trade their freedom for a managed life, from birth until the grim reaper calls.
Trump via MAGA hijacked and then redirected The Tea Party bringing all under the wing of the Republican Party. If left to its own resources the Tea Party would have eventually restored the Constitutional authority to Congress. The Tea Party was the beginning of a new American revolution. Gone would be the Federal Reserve and Pentagon, neither of these to will be gone under MAGA.
The left has been screaming to increase corporate taxes or add VAT taxes to bring in more tax revenue. Aren't tariffs basically the same thing - in other words whenever taxes are raised someone pays - consumers, importers, exporters, everyone and of course revenues are not as high as forecast. Same old same old. Surprised that we don't get more reporting on how much tariff revenue has been raised. It is a drop in the deficit bucket
Careful who you call a bully , wears a halo or a tail... what goes around, well you know how that works.
“In a year or two, the ratio — Dow/Gold — will be near our ‘5’ trigger.”…been hearing this prediction ever since I subscribed here, a few sets of “in a year or two” ago’s.
Got another prediction, Mr. Bonner: the sun’s gonna burn out in 4 or 5 billion years. Hey, it’s just as precise as your economic calamity calls.
A year or two. At least mr bill made a prediction. But I guess if the two Stephens are in charge, he won’t follow his own advice? Typical of bill lately, clear as mud.
While the real culprit is spending and financing via Inflate or Die, the Volvo buying argument is a specious if not laughable argument. Do not see any mechanism where Volvo sales drive trade or the imbalance pf trade. Perhaps a look at Airbus sales?.
When you are trying to sell a drowning argument you'll grasp on to any twig that floats by....
SBE- When slinging emotions at least make a compelling argument against and perhaps a solution for a the OOC spending.... I contact my duly elected reps weekly to impress upon them the importance of spending rescissions and constraints
Not an unreasonable view of the future. The only thing I'm not sure about Bill is the plan for the US Dollar-- might they want it to decline against other currencies? US Goods would be more competitive in the world markets...
Hey, Bill Bonner, I hear you. Shifting sands. Time to tread carefully.