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I’m not done. There are four more points I would like to make about this series on hate. (I hope this is it. I have a day job.)

1. Bill often makes his points with anecdotes that are most extreme or not significant. From last week’s post:

“In Israel today, Jews from all over the world are free to immigrate and get citizenship. Arabs are not. Children of mixed Jewish-Arab couples do not have the right to immigrate to Israel either. "A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew's fingernail,” said a Council of Rabbis. Israelis are not necessarily fond of Christians either. Recent news reports tell of Jews spitting at Christians in Jerusalem. And the 11th century Monastery of the Cross, built by crusaders, was sprayed with graffiti saying: Death to Christians.”

I don’t think the point about mixed Jewish-Arab couples is accurate. The line about spitting is like me saying that someone yelled “Heil, Hitler!” at a Jew walking on the street as an example that antisemitism is prevalent in the U.S. today. Who spit? Who is the Council of Rabbis? The fact is, Israel protects sites holy to all religions as well as, or better than, any Western country. On trips to Israel, I spoke with visiting Christians who felt welcomed and at home by the locals. I’d like to hear Bill’s comments about this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznFT4-2dKI of rival groups of Christian monks in an all-out rumble at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, and what conclusions he draws from it.

2. I wrote an op-ed that was published in our local paper, Sunday edition, in August, 2005, when Israel pulled its citizens and soldiers from Gaza, known as the Disengagement. This is the end of the op-ed:

“Withdrawal from Gaza will bring larger towns and cities in Israel, including the Ashkelon power plant, within 10 miles of terrorists’ rocket launchers. Israel already is planning to defend against rocket attacks in what will become the new border towns.

“Egypt and the Palestinian Authority have shown that they cannot be relied upon to stop terrorism, to put it mildly.

“The Disengagement Plan is a disaster for Gaza. It is a disaster for Israel. It is a disaster for the world.

“The Disengagement Plan will turn Gaza into the terrorist capital of the world.”

‘Nuff said.

3. To understand the Israeli – Arab conflict, you have to know about Haj Amin El Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. While there were moderate Arab groups in Palestine who were interested in working with the Jews immigrating from Europe for the economic benefit of the region, El Husseini was opposed to Jews in Palestine. According to O’ Jerusalem by LaPierre and Collins, in the 1930s El Husseini’s henchmen killed several thousand fellow Arabs that he saw as threats: academics, scientists, community leaders, etc. During WW2, El Husseini was in Germany, consulting with government officials, including Hitler. El Hussieni instigated several pogroms against Jews in Palestine, and set the tone for the fierce anti-Jewish sentiment among Arabs that still exists. Had the British appointed a moderate as Grand Mufti, chances for co-existence among Jews and Arabs would be much greater, in my opinion. I shared just a few points about him, for those interested in learning more, it is worth your while to do more research.

4. Finally, many residents of Gaza are victims of Hamas, just as residents of Afghanastan are victims of the Taliban. Times of Israel reported that Hamas employed Gazans to dig their tunnels under extreme secrecy, and then executed about 100 diggers to prevent them from sharing the location of the tunnels. Hamas has an intricate tunnel system under Gaza, referred to by Israeli soldiers as “the Gaza Metro”. Israel is not carpet bombing Gaza. Every bomb is strategically planned. Any building or location bombed by Israel is used by Hamas as offices, to store weapons, where they shoot from, an entrance to a tunnel, etc. Hamas owns the deaths of the poor innocent Gazans.

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𝐓𝐢𝐦 𝐁𝐚𝐥𝐝𝐰𝐢𝐧's avatar

I predict that when the Israel-Hamas war concludes, the victors will be the (mostly American) arms manufacturers , and the losers will be the thousands of Israelis and Arabs killed or suffering life changing wounds. Billions of dollars of valuable resources will have been wasted to achieve practically nothing. Israelis will be safer? I doubt it. Hamas will destroy Israel? Don't make me laugh! What a sick time we live in.

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