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I hate to admit it but I think Bill is right on his point today. Bombing Iran into submission will not work. Nothing short of ground troops will “win” this war and achieve the victory that would “end” the war. Byron King has written an excellent essay this morning discussing the war and his observations are accurate IMO. He mentions something that isn’t discusses in the MSM: Iran declared to Steve Witcoff that they have sufficient fuel to make 11 nuclear bombs! Assuming this is true, there may have been little reason to delay this conflict. However, I see an eerily familiar discussion coming out of the fog of this war. That is the nuclear bomb threat from Iran sounds like the WMD “threat” of the Iraq war.

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Ah... more slurs from Bill as he seeks to raw conflate war casualty statistics with American strategy and tactics - and somehow finds the Americans wanting - in spite of the positive end of WWII for the allies. In spite of the casualties and risks underwritten by those WWII Bombardiers like my own father in order to minimize collateral civilian casualties - as though it never happened.

For everyone reading this, know that the American Heavy Bomber forces, targeted only industrial sites. Full stop. Were their casualties, regardless? Surely. Munitions factories, Refineries & Chemical plants and Railyards had military defenses if not simply night watchmen.

My father was repeatedly returning to the Rumanian Refineries in Ploesti. I encourage everyone to read about that particular campaign. That was where the Nazi's were converting coal into jet fuel using what is known (and being contemplated with a new facility in Arizona today) as the Fisher-Tropshe process.

Now, imagine having to fly your lumbering B24 Liberator heavy Bomber straight thorough a "black rectangular cloud" of blinding smoke and Flak, coming up from the ground directly over these facilities, on a clear blue day, simply to target correctly. You can read first-hand accounts in the book "The Wild Blue Yonder".

The Bombardiers using the Norden bombsight had to simultaneously fly the plane while delivering their bombs and ignore all the chaos occurring around them. These men were obviously made of tougher stuff than is often found today. They knew the odds of their survival spanned a period of time of approximately three weeks yet did it anyway, and repeatedly as well.

The movie "Catch 22"attempted to capture the psychodrama involved. Joseph Heller, the author actually completed this novel in my Uncle Don Clark's NYC illustrator studio. I remember Don relating the story to my father as they both reminisced sharing the own WWII Army Air Corp. stories (a quick aside: both Heller and Don served in the same unit yet were never deployed in theater).

But also understand what Bill seems to be unaware of or is purposely papering over - it was the British, after having absorbed the merciless Nazi V2 rocket campaign, aimed at its own citizens, that chose to respond in kind. I have no criticism of the Brits for this. Fire with Fire and Goose & Gander... But I will always challenge those that seek to misrepresent truth and seek to misrepresent the historic heroism of "better men than themselves" the American Heavy Bomber forces- whether out of their own ignorance or abject malice.

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