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StarboardEdge's avatar

Congratulations Bill - you have 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 started addressing what EVERYTHING we are seeing is 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 about.

War. It actually is that simple and it's coming because the ones who make the rules want it to - once again that class is dependent on so many nefarious, evil outcomes for their entertainment, enjoyment and twisted validation. Regardless, 𝘄𝗲 will get what they want while also paying for it in Blood and Treasure.

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

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John S's avatar

Was going to say something along the same lines SE. We'll get a war the same way they got one in 1914; almost by "accident", but definitely not for any reason worth anyone dying for. Dumb, evil, bastards, the lot of them

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Under this President, whatever drags us kicking and screaming into hostilities is guaranteed to be a False Flag...

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Egypt Solomon's avatar

Here’s what they’re not telling you, probably because they think you’re too busy licking a battery to notice: America is quietly panic-hoarding like a Walmart on Black Friday after someone yells “tariff.” And let’s talk about that word—tariff—what a bougie, bureaucratic way of saying “we’re gonna charge you more for your own crap.” They dress it up in policy drag like it’s some kind of Ivy League econ thesis“ reciprocal tariff bilateral growth incentivization”, shut the hell up, Brent. You’re just mugging the guy who delivered your soybeans and calling it a trade strategy. And the kicker? These so-called “world leaders”, a term that really just means “high-functioning sociopaths with armies”, are pretending this makes sense.

Imagine walking up to Xi Jinping, ruler of 1.5 billion ride-or-die loyalists, and saying, “Yo, that bed frame you make for $75? It’s gonna cost $205 now because democracy said so.” That’s not policy, that’s a hostage note written in crayon by a drunk raccoon in a suit.

And now the sheep are stampeding, buying cars, hoarding diapers, and prepping for an economic rapture like it’s Y2K with Bluetooth.

Why? Because their smooth-brained, panic-laced logic tells them everything’s going to get more expensive.

Then comes the punchline: when the GDP numbers hit and consumer spending looks like it just chugged five Red Bulls, the talking heads on cable news will orgasm in unison, “It’s working! Look at this confidence! Look at these numbers!”

No, you buffoons, that’s not economic growth, it’s mass delusion backed by corporate greed and enough debt to make the Roman Empire look frugal. This isn’t the Invisible Hand guiding the market, this is the middle finger, dipped in gold, flipping off the last few brain cells we have left before the economy implodes in a Big Crunch of cosmic stupidity.

Star-Man, you’re my boy!

😂

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Nailed it so well even a leftist could understand (maybe.)

Back atchya, Gypt. Back atchya...

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JW's avatar

Hey Egypt, cool you wrote in plain-speak! Keep it up.

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Joe Stevenson's avatar

It is surprising that there is no acknowledgment that tariffs have been around for decades. American companies were encouraged by both taxes and regulations and cheaper labor to expand overseas. In order to spread the capitalist model this was necessary. This has also brought more prosperity and better lives to millions, whether you want to accept that or not. The middle class in this country have suffered as a result. This is an attempt to rebalance the table.

Does anyone really believe it is in your interest to be dependent on a country which continues to be an adversary, and states it wants to replace the USA as THE superpower for our pharmaceuticals and critical components. No matter what Bill says the CHINESE government is our friend.

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Egypt Solomon's avatar

Oh absolutely Joe, thank you for that TED Talk sponsored by Xanax and selective memory. Yes, tariffs have existed for decades, right alongside disco, asbestos, and leaded gasoline. And sure, offshoring was a brilliant move if your goal was to make yachts affordable for CEOs while gutting American towns like fish on a Friday. Spreading capitalism like its gospel while turning entire industries into Dollar Store relics wasn’t prosperity, it was economic Darwinism with a smiley face.

And now, after selling our manufacturing soul for cheap microwaves and TikTok trends, we’re suddenly shocked that our meds come from a country that treats dissent like a contact sport?

Bravo. If this is your version of rebalancing the table, you’re playing Jenga with live grenades, and as for the Chinese government being our “friend”?

Yup, just like a loan shark is your “financial advisor.”

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Joe Stevenson's avatar

Wow, too bad you didn’t understand anything I wrote correctly.

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Egypt Solomon's avatar

Sometimes I think this new chip in my head actually makes me dumber! Like a computer! Neuralink! LOL

Please explain?

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Brien's avatar

Well I’m beginning to believe that all this wailing and gnashing of teeth must mean that Trump is over the target. In a world full of deceptions, distortions and lies from all the official sources, what are we being fed now regarding tariffs? Surely it must be the unvarnished truth.

There was a man who once turned over the tables in a church because people were selling things inside. The pundits would have called that bad form. It was most certainly bad for business.

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Joe Stevenson's avatar

Amen

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Andre Louw's avatar

China will not lose face (mianzi) a fact that Mr Trump has failed to consider seriously before reckless arbitrary tariff announcements. How this will play out is going to be interesting to watch. I suspect Mr trump is going to do a fair bit of back pedalling before the fight is over. Fortunately whatever concessions he will have to make he will always call victory/

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StarboardEdge's avatar

True, but that one aspect just makes him like all the rest of our "leaders", so what's the big deal...

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Andre Louw's avatar

The big deal is DT's underestimation of Xi's resolve not to lose face no matter what. This will imho result in DT firing the opening salvo, but losing the battle in the end. The US needs China more than the other way round

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Also re. China and the "fact" that there is "no way" the US can win this battle:

Don't believe the hype you see on our "media", nor much of what you read in Bonner's articles or from numerous commenters on these boards. The Chinese Economy was 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗹𝘆 wobbly before all this started and it's only getting worse.

Videos like this number in the HUNDREDS on YouTube, made and uploaded by business people, factory owners/managers and regular folk from within the Country. A poster told me they represented "crack pot" information yesterday, but if you take the time to watch any of them, they all are saying 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 the same thing - the Paper Dragon's feet have caught fire. I agree that Xi won't lose face - he'll likely go to War instead. Thankfully we have a President who, I believe, will do everything he can to keep us from getting sucked in - but it is probably unavoidable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBFcRowAU-o

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Bill's avatar

Excellent video everybody check it out.

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Joe Stevenson's avatar

Americans have everything we need in the way of material goods. Could you really not get by if you couldn’t buy any piece of clothing for a year? I could and I am straight up middle class financially. Tv, microwave? They don’t all come from China anymore. If chinas exports to the US drop significantly then their economy will suffer greatly. However, the elites in China wouldn’t care cause their concern isn’t for the people, just beating the USA

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StarboardEdge's avatar

"𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘜𝘚 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘴 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘢 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥"

That is a provably false "narrative"-drenched pipe dream, sourced and peddled by globalist swine - the fact that you believe it makes you look extremely unserious and drastically ill-informed....

Let me help you with one example from literally dozens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYJTQkEzCec

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Bill's avatar

They have many faces.... Hopefully they are willing to lose at least one.

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Ransom Frank Glew's avatar

Does it really matter if vehicle prices go up another $5-15K when people of modest means can already no longer afford to buy, insure and maintain one, let alone find one that has the features they want, isn't as ugly as sin and isn't so complicated that they drive it into a tree while trying to figure out what that light that suddenly started flashing on the center display screen is all about...

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Sluggo's avatar

I just wish they’d make a pickup truck with roll-down windows, window swivel vents, three-on-the-tree, a vinyl mat and bench seat; and not these things now that are a luxury car with a bed.

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Ransom Frank Glew's avatar

I agree with you that trucks have become more car-like over the years. My 2014 Tacoma has roll-down windows and a bench seat. Personally I would have liked buckets but you couldn't get those with a standard cab, which was more important to me. Now Toyota doesn't even offer a standard cab in the US, though I imagine they might still in emerging markets.

Every now and then I think wistfully back on my first set of wheels; a '56 Dodge pickup with a Saginaw three-speed and a flathead six...

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Sluggo's avatar

I miss the days when a pickup truck was a tool; now just a luxury vehicle. The most off-road the vast majority of these things will see is if the driver accidentally backs over the flower bed.

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Ransom Frank Glew's avatar

:-)

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Bill's avatar

It's a component of product proliferation. The need to differentiate products, features, ...

I have a fairly high end vehicle. Went to get an oil change today while I sat there.I looked up... Overhead I have twelve auxiliary tabs. Each sunriser has three buttons built into it. I'm guessing.

It for garager openers in the house lighting. There was another pull typq switch in the middle. Did not even understand the icon on it. I pulled it a couple times and heard a buzzing noise... Time to read the manual I guess. To your larger point none of it matters at all.... waste. Is price proliferation! At the same time they're fencing out millions of potential consumers.

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rKf's avatar

Maybe - ya think? - we all need to check our presumptions, agendas, and preconceptions at the door before launching into any far-reaching actions; this specially applies to those suffering from grandiosity & having the power to hurt us. Or, for a start, how about considering if your actions are prudent or far-reaching. As a rookie, “little man” negotiator, I used to tell our team, “if reason attends the meeting, we have a chance,” I guess I’m still naive.The scarcity of 2nd (or 3rd) level thinking amongst our government do-goodies makes me conclude there is little thinking at all: tiny ill-conceived ideas isn’t thinking if consequences can’t be fully considered. The “do something, do anything” disease is blinding. Foolishly, I expect more from those to whom we give our trust. Yep. “still <foolish> after all these years .” 😎

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Cartero Atómico's avatar

Does anyone have a problem with the way the Trump team is picking and choosing who will get exemptions from Trump's tariffs? When the economy was shut down during the Scamdemic the big boys continued doing business with billionaires increasing their wealth by over a trillion dollars. Meanwhile small businesses suffered. This could be happening again.

Tariff exemptions are also a great way to encourage graft and corruption. Tariff exemptions for political bribes , a.k.a. contributions.

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

Let’s get back to defining the problem. America has closed 57, 000 factories. Only 100 million out of 350 million work; most food and necessities imported; 36 trillion in debt, most owned by China; all wealth in stock market, digital nothing worse than Bitcoin; failed educational system, 1.6 trillion in debt.

America is a basket case, 80 years in the making.

It is not nations that control the world, it’s the 1%, corporations, now hedge funds.

You think that the wealth has been equalized, just look at America, how equal is that. It’s worse in undeveloped countries; why do you think the great migration exists, corporations bought up everything and ship it to wealthy countries.

Supposedly, the US, the consumer giant, buys it all up with 2 trillion a year deficits and printed money while producing nothing. Burn it all down. It has to burn eventually.

It is a fable gone mad, “The Midas Touch,” “The goose that lays the golden eggs.” America, the goose, the middle class, has had its neck wrung. Or maybe, it is “Humpty Dumpty.” I never understood the stupidity of that one but it rhymes with US government. Maybe, not even Trump can put it back together again.

Do they have a crash course in Chinese? Guess I must learn to bow to my new enlightened leaders.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Nah. Go down fighting with the rest of us, Xav....

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

Always! I wrote something but it went somewhere.

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Bill's avatar

I used to speak chinese..... I forgot most of it. All I remember is. MANY YUMS."

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Lowell's avatar

Bill, personally understanding a subject(s) is paramount to not negating it's premise. Relying on other's research within one's domain maybe is the beginning of realization that one has to raise the "bar" of their own inquiries. Yeah, but who has the time, right?

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working stiff's avatar

Perhaps take a few minutes and watch daily signal on you tube featuring Victor Davis Hanson. There are several great reels where he explains the bigger picture. It will put things into perspective, provides real data and unlike the 3 stooges show here, it is free. For all your bluster you fail to see the big picture, and frankly your rants have become a bore, Hardly worth the time to read. Right now we are only seeing Moe, Hopefully Dan and Tom don't become Larry and Shemp!

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Bob Wetmore's avatar

Another cranky rant. Let me make a useful suggestion to you: Since you find this site full of "bluster" and a "bore" why not save yourself the time and money and cancel, knuckle-head?

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working stiff's avatar

Look at this tough guy, Bobby know one is into the name calling here, you must have peeked in high school. I won't cancel primarily because (unlike some of those whom post, I agree with 2/3rds of the trio most of the time.) Dan and Tom focus on what we pay for, thier posts are not a bore - it is the ridiculous trump bashing posts, the ones that offer no solutions that are a bore. Knuckle head? The intelligence is amazing.

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Bill's avatar

"Knuckle head! Knuckle head? Why I oughta poke your eyes out. Eeeerr eeer. Wake up and go to sleep."

What kept clogging the drain on Noazark? Mo hair.

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John P Gallien's avatar

The Bonner sycophants are coming after you. Truth is Bonner can't hold a candle to Victor Davis Hanson.

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

Another stupid rant, stiff ? BTW U got a real name? I bet U never really worked a day in Ur life.

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working stiff's avatar

your intelligence is blinding, must be BB's admin or chauffer or something.... maybe boot polisher

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

Better that ,than a boot licker to the Don , like U.

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working stiff's avatar

As I said, you peaked in high school, or sooner - grow up DH

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StarboardEdge's avatar

He's just an old, old man who is well into losing it. Based on his past posts, I'm guessing he wasn't all that sharp even in his prime...

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Bill's avatar

Shemp has way too much hair. How about Curly Joe?

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working stiff's avatar

OK, Curly Joe it is…..

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William Dickie's avatar

WD: it’s obvious that the shit is hitting the fan. It’s been a long time coming since the beginning of the Fed 19 13, 1914 whatever it’s time somebody upset the apple cart. The market is up 100% since 2021. That’s ridiculous. Something needs to be changed. do something even if it’s wrong, don’t just stand there. I hope there’s not a physical war, but I believe the great taking has merit at this point. It looks like the plan is hope and regret. Let’s pray that’s not it. Have a nice day.

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working stiff's avatar

It amazes me, BB has been calling for this market crash for at least the 2 years or so I've been a member. Now that it is here, its Trumps fault. I will say the President provided the pin to pop the bubble, however, if the MAX Safety Mode is to be believed, it has been a long time coming. So why the distress BB? One would think your predictions becoming reality would substantiate the teams approach, instead you fill us with BS.

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John P Gallien's avatar

Putting much of my money in gold and silver in 2020 and again in 2022 has helped me big time. The other investments have been so-so but have also been much smaller amounts.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Heya Stiff - don't look now, but it appears Delusion and his evil twin brother Ignorance are once again marching to victory over Reality, re. the "market."

Dead Man Walking has been replaced with Dead Money Soaring...

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Mackinac's avatar

Short term.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Undoubtedly. I was making an observation, not an endorsement...

:)

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working stiff's avatar

yes it is amazing, personally, I took a position half way between MSM and the market. How is that working out, lets say I'm in positive territory, I feel somewhat hedge by Tom's shipping stocks which in a few days aren't doing terrible. Love the quote Delusion/Ignorance over reality! :-)

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

This comment shows Ur a dumb stooge, stiff .

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Bill's avatar

Very cool comments guys. Let's keep it that way.... I'm waiting for a dump truck of stuff now.

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

Bill who?

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

Oh ! Sorry , Bill , I didn't realize just plain Bill in comments was the real Bill Bonner .

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working stiff's avatar

Another tuff guy with the high school antics, I'll take that as a compliment from you

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frank hayes's avatar

BB, is that you on the right?

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

Another great one, Bill, thanks.

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Buda's avatar

Mr. Bill,

Primer Xi, is as, I understand, is pronounced “She”. Well, what is it?

Please use the correct PCR pronoun.

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

From “Racket News” Substack, I think it says it all about the State of America and the lie of “Free Trade.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/taibbi/p/burn-it-all-down?r=qsd26&utm_medium=ios

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InGodWeTrust's avatar

Wow Bonner's TDS is really flaring up today. Grab your meds Bill..

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