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Roy Avondet's avatar

I agree that this shaking up of world trade is messy, but it seems to me that each of your arguments has at its core the assumption that everything was perfect before the changes. It wasn’t. Bretton Woods created a system where US (we the people) paid for Europe’s defense. We had essentially the same deal with Japan. Most of your (and most every other) analysis is one sided accounting. In your case all debits. Where are the credits? In the Trump administration analysis it is all credits. Where are the debits? The truth is no one knows - yet.

Cartero Atómico's avatar

Were we actually paying for Europe's defense? NATO is a great way for the MIC to sell their overpriced weapon systems. So maybe we were just filling the bank accounts of the MIC. Also, our "defense" of Europe allows us to control them. Military bases in most of their countries and Alphabet agencies working to insure their leaders march to our commands. If you dona little research on Operation Gladio you will see how deep our control is.

Bill's avatar

Yes, we were and are paying for Europe's defense. Despite m I c just look at defense spanning as a percent of g d p . Our allies have been consistently short per NATI agreement For decades. The numbers theyre giving us are probably overstated.

Cartero Atómico's avatar

But why do they need to spend so much in defense when Europe internally is going down hill just like the US. Defend against what? I wish I would have saved the quote but a retired US general said at a conference in Europe before the Russian invasion that the confrontations in the region were good for business. Perhaps the MIC and NATO are just money laundering schemes - sucking up taxpayer dollars and distributing them to themselves.

Worm Farmer extraordinaire's avatar

Do you believe America has more control over the EU, than Israel has over America? I think Israel has us locked into a straight jacket. I agree with most of what you say. I am just curious as to your opinion. Thank you in advance.

Cartero Atómico's avatar

Not that my opinion is worth a hill of beans but I'm not sure who has more control. It's a great question. Maybe I'll ask Grok or ChatGPT just for a laugh.

Dave J's avatar

That's the way it works with the Marxists/Leftists/Democrats, there is never any double entry bookkeeping.

Éric's avatar

I can't help but point out that if we stick to what's written in the comment you're answering, you've just called the Trump administration Marxists.

Dave J's avatar

Uh no, Mr. Avondet's statement (which is the one I replied to) was, "Most of your (and most every other) analysis is one sided accounting." The "your" in that sentence was a reference to Mr. Bonner, not the Trump administration. Competent reading comprehension is necessary to be an effective commenter on here.

Éric's avatar

"In the Trump administration analysis it is all credits. Where are the debits?"

Competent reading might get hindered by confirmation bias.

Steven King's avatar

A year ago the FED was concerned about the affordability of a new car plus insurance for the average American. Adding another 20% to the cost will only make things worse. The spiral affects voluntary unemployment because your transportation broke down and you can't afford another car. Perhaps we could take some of the money from the military industrial complex to provide a robust public transportation. I don't think the lobbyist would allow that to happen. The EU is entering a recession and doesn't have the financial wherewithal to resist the US, so they opted for time. Japan is undergoing a debt crisis and can offer NO resistance. The thyme here is kick your "friends" when they are down. If I were the Japanese, I'd close down all US operations - it would be far cheaper in the long run. It would only affect about 300000 US jobs. A much better strategy at the same cost.

Bill's avatar

The Fed wasn't concerned about sh...

Please. The cost of an automobile or the price of your insurance?

P.S If you can't afford to fix your broken down car get another job!

StarboardEdge's avatar

Three Cheers for America Last.

Got it....

Cartero Atómico's avatar

Is the EU controlled by idiots or have they been bought by the US? They complied with the US sanctions of Russia for the Ukraine invasion and bought more expensive gas from the US. Then, Trump rewards them with 15% tariffs.

What amazes me is that the US has invaded Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya just this century without one sanction placed on them by the EU. Same goes with no sanctions on Israel. When will the Europeans wake up and realize they are getting screwed by the EU leadership?

Abe Porter's avatar

Why not sanctions on Hamas? Israel has not attacked the Palestenians under the Hamas regime unless provoked.

Abe Porter's avatar

This may be true regarding Netanyahu. What about years before Netanyahu where the 2 state solution would have materialized if not refused by the Palestinian authority even though they got 90% of what they wanted.

StarboardEdge's avatar

Quiet. Leftardes only look back as far as it supports whatever BS they are spewing at the moment...

Sierradenali's avatar

Yikes, are there no limits to where you will go to blame Israel?

Cartero Atómico's avatar

The point was the EU went along with sanctions against Russia because of the Ukraine invasion even though it's hurting their economy. But the US has invaded multiple countries just this century without one sanction imposed by the EU. Plus, Israel is bombing the hell out of Gaza without one sanction imposed by the EU. Why?

Don Hrehirchek's avatar

This in My opinion , is what happens when people become lazy and expect the good ole government to solve their problems. It is the government that caused all these problems!!!!!!!!!!

Angry Icebergs's avatar

...the problem with your lament is theoretically "We the People" are the government.

Don Hrehirchek's avatar

Yes , in theory, but reality is different from My view point!

Angry Icebergs's avatar

Couldn't agree more!

Merkel's Muslim mania managed to do in a few months what the Byzantine, Sasanian, the Crusades, the Visigoths, the Ghassanids, the Frankish, the Balkan wars and countless other armies spilt blood for centuries to prevent.

Merkel also ignored Putin and shut down the nukes.

...and yet Mekel is still revered in Germany...

Bill's avatar

What could they possibly sanction? The US paying many of their bills.

Bill's avatar

Yes, the EU is controlled by idiots.

StarboardEdge's avatar

Bill makes some great points in today's missive IMO - and a lot of other points that are based purely on conjecture and worst-case outcome thinking. That's one way to live, I guess.

An alternative would be to consider the fact that Trump has opened up new markets to US goods and services all over the world, while balancing long-standing trade discriminations that went against the US in others. We are now charging foreign producers for the "right" to sell their products in America, the world's leading consumer market (by a mile.) Finally (for now), the doom and gloom over 'tariff Inflation" on the American people has yet to materialize - but boy-oh-boy are some people pining hard for it to become Reality.

The jury is still out on pretty much every point Bonner tries to make in today's missive, even though he tells us these things as though they are foregone conclusions.

At this point, they are not.

Sadly, he seems to be rooting hard for Guilty verdicts all the way down the line....

James F's avatar

Why do you keep reading Mr. Bonner's messages?

Dave J's avatar

Mr. Bonner is a perfect foil that enables those of us that can think our way out of a paper sack to demonstrate to others how much of what he writes is nonsense. There's more useful information in Starboard's post above than in Bonner's entire article today.

Patrick H Neff's avatar

Dave, U got to be sick in the head, to think anything Stary writes is any way factual information.

Dave J's avatar

I said "useful". SE lead with IMO "in my opinion". The vast majority of everything written on here (including by our dear Editor) is opinion. Some opinions are just better reasoned than others.

StarboardEdge's avatar

Hey Patty -

Can you please tell me which part of my post is NOT currently a FACT?

Link your sources that prove me wrong - because I can show Evidence that everything I wrote is happening now...

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Dave J's avatar

Reading books written by people with axes to grind is usually a waste of time. I chose to read books by the likes of Locke, de Tocqueville and Levin. You demonstrate your ignorance by making the statement, "I just hope democracy survives that charlatan."

Allow me to educate you. You won't find the word "democracy" anywhere in the U.S. Constitution and with good reason. Our Founding Fathers despised democracy. They were students of history and understood that democracies always devolve into rule by mob ("mobocracy"). It's government by and for the lowest common denominator. We are not a democracy, we are a constitutional representative republic. You should read some books on the subject, it will be illuminating for you.

StarboardEdge's avatar

1. I'm a glutton for punishment.

2. Laughter is supposed to be good for your Health...

Wes T's avatar

Maybe they aren’t foregone conclusions. However, I don’t like that government is limiting my choices of where to shop. One of the main arguments for tariffs is that is will restore manufacturing. Doubt it. Even assuming EPA and OSHA regulations can be eased enough to make it a reasonable prospect, state and local jurisdictions, along with NIMBY attitudes make it very unlikely. And even if it did happen, we have so easily forgotten the days of “buy American” where we were expected to step up and by the Harley Davison that leaked oil all over our boots and garage floors, Pontiacs were literally pieces of shit, and Fords were not quite found on road dead. Tariffs protect industries, they don’t give them incentives to compete, and they take away my right buy what I want at a competitive price.

StarboardEdge's avatar

"Maybe, even if, doubt it, even assuming, very unlikely, even if it did".....

You running a hedge fund or making a comment?

Invector's avatar

"𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒓𝒖𝒏𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂 𝒉𝒆𝒅𝒈𝒆 𝒇𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒓 𝒎𝒂𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕?"

😂😂Oh man, it's good to have you back.

Wes T's avatar

Just pointing out the “what ifs”. You a gambler?

StarboardEdge's avatar

Not when I have a choice - or find something akin to candy from babies*...

*BTC

Egypt Solomon's avatar

Bill, you described and explained the Devil’s Calculator perfectly: TARIFFS, a tax on us all, blue collar, white collar, or shirtless in the rain with a welding torch, but what the Elite forget to mention is what the Devil scribbled on the back of an IMF napkin: Tariff + Sovereign Ego = Global Economic Apocalypse. If T = Tariff %, P = Price of imports, M = Money supply, then to offset the cost, central banks everywhere are silently doing this:

M’ = M × (1 + T)

That’s right, countries don’t eat the tariff; they print their way through it like rats in a cheese factory. Every time a 30% tariff hits, the government prints 30% more currency. Not just America, but China, the EU, Brazil, India, all of ‘em. Inflation doesn’t scream, it simmers. It’s the synchronized printing press waltz that keeps everything appearing stable. But appearances lie. It ain’t a bubble anymore, it’s a global balloon, and buddy, the needle’s getting closer.

Let’s take a look at the Grand Illusion of Mutual Misery: CHINA: the misunderstood dragon. Folks think they’re itchin’ to kill the dollar. Nonsense. They love the dollar bloated and cocky, because it camouflages their own currency manipulations.

R = (CPI_US × FX_CNY/USD) / CPI_CHINA

Where R = Real perceived stability ratio. If the US inflates, China inflates just enough to stay under the radar. They ain’t trying to torch the dollar, they’re using it as a smokescreen while shifting their chess pieces, one Belt and Road loan at a time. It’s mutual assured deception. Every nation is cooking its books at the same time, and no one’s calling the health inspector, ‘cause they’re all serving from the same poisoned stew.

So when’s it all going to blow? That’s the wrong question, folks. The right question is: Why hasn’t it already? Answer: The Devil’s still laughin’. Markets are no longer tied to value, they’re propped up by prayers, propaganda, and quantitative crack. Every “deal” just prolongs the high. But here’s the grim finale: when this synchronized printing spree hits critical dissonance, meaning when one country flinches, defaults, or exposes the others, the crash won’t be localized. It’ll be a domino detonation. Stocks? Gone. Fiat? Worth toilet paper. Monopoly 1929? Child’s play. This’ll be tariff Armageddon, the Last Great Depression, starring Jerome Powell as the bartender and the Devil as the DJ. The bottom won’t fall out, it’ll be yanked. And the laugh you hear echoing across the smoke and ash? That ain’t thunder, partner. That’s the Devil cashing out.

An Ol' LSO's avatar

Egypt - I didn't know you had it in ya. Beautifully crafted and - frankly - spot-on. The World is coming apart. The West is doing anything and everything it can to maintain its dominance and losing. The East is trying to separate itself from the hegemony of the West and the US$. The East doesn't want to invade the West at all - what for..and Sun Tzu has three quotes: 1.) There is no instance of a nation benefiting from a prolonged war (and the U.S. since Korea has been in one war after another creating the $37T debt): 2.) Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake; and, 3.) An Evil Man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes. The West can't stand they have lost their hegemony so what do they do - threats, threats, a bomb here, a bomb there, and then more threats. And, what can we peons do - try to prepare as best as possible. Again, thank you Egypt, for your thoughts

Bill's avatar

Right behind Bill Bonner?

StarboardEdge's avatar

And Damn that Orange Hitler for causing it all!

AmIright?

Egypt Solomon's avatar

You’re not wrong Star-Man ⭐️🪐🔭.

He didn’t cause the storm, but he sure is selling umbrellas filled with gasoline before the lightning hits.

Let’s not call him the architect of the apocalypse, more like the renovation manager of a house already on fire, grinning wide and saying:

“Trust me, it’ll be tremendous when it burns down. Best ashes you’ve ever seen.”

And yes, partially agree, he stirred the pot like a meth chef with a Red Bull problem, but that stew was already boiling. The global system’s been wheezing like a chain-smoker on a Peloton long before the orange-tinted demigod took the wheel and about to drive us off a fiscal cliff while tweeting in ALL CAPS.

Let’s be honest, he ain’t the Devil. He’s the contractor the Devil hired off Craigslist. The gears of the machine are grinding to dust, and Donnie-boy just dumping in a few fistfuls of gold-plated sand and saying, “It’s running smoother than ever, folks.” So he didn’t write the script. He’s selling the movie rights and starring in it while we buy tickets with counterfeit money.

StarboardEdge's avatar

Hiya Gypt -

Fair assessment on ONE condition:

Does all of the above still apply if/when the Satsuma demi-God (pretty good, I made that up) and his henchmen from the tribes of Bessent and Lucknik actually DO take some of the current and coming windfalls to apply directly to the national debt?

Don't answer - neither one of us has the inclination or temperament to deal in Hypotheticals. But maybe, just maybe, the current troupe will make a small dent in the irresponsibility of the Congress - which is where the ire of ALL of us should be aimed....

Steve L's avatar

Yes Bill, “ Ms. Russell, who lives in Texas and has four children, must not have much free time. If she had, she might have thought this through a bit further.” And you who live everywhere else except America really shouldn’t care about anything an American says. We know you have too much free time, as you should at your age, but stop wasting your precious time on this nonsense. The left has so many more problems to solve and address like Sydney Sweeney and her Jeans 🧬 commercials:)

Worm Farmer extraordinaire's avatar

You know, Steve I never heard before of Sid Sweeney. But when I saw her pictures on 0 hedge, I can see why people like her.😂😂😂

Steve L's avatar

How are you doing brother? Hope all is well with you and your family 🙏 enjoy the rest of the summer!

Worm Farmer extraordinaire's avatar

Hey Steve. Our summer has been excellent! The weather just broke here in West Virginia . We woke up to about 53° here this morning. Loved it! Steve I hope everything is going well with you and yours! Best wishes the rest of the summer into the fall. As always We will hope for the best but prepare for the worst. May god bless us all

Steve L's avatar

Beautiful! Same with the weather here! It was so nice these past two days, after two straight months of 90+ weather, we finally hit the 60s here in the beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains😊 Been doing lots of traveling and enjoying family and friends time during these most beautiful days while still in remission. God is great and so grateful for the extra time I was blessed with🙏 Stat happy and healthy and best wishes going forward 🙏 God has already blessed us both, just need some help for the rest of the world 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Angry Icebergs's avatar

Pitting Ursala against Donald, what alternative outcome did anyone expect?

Bill's avatar

The fight of the century!

Grey Bush vs Orange Man. Coming soon to a White House lawn near you. Loser gets a hit with a fifteen percent tariff. DING!

StarboardEdge's avatar

She lost before she put on her jockstrap.....

pS - "Grey Bush". LM8thgradeAO.... :)

Sierradenali's avatar

Ya know Bill, you wonder how that woman finds the time to write good things about Trumps latest moves but you always seem to find the time to say bad things about him. Hmmm..

Allen Reames's avatar

I am getting tried of your "sky is falling" articles. I like it when you write about repairing your house, the activities of the neighbors and similar stories.

Bill's avatar

They all left.

They've grown tired as well.

Bill's avatar

P.S. They didn't get paid for their repairs to the gypsy wagon.

FlyingDad's avatar

Yes Bill, all good points if “free trade” ever really existed in our jacked up world. Unfortunately, free trade is not possible with the multiple layers of different entrenched governments around the world. So far, our previous “non-reciprocal” tariffs policies of previous administrations has only hollowed out the working middle class of the U.S. (you’ve previously said so yourself in these missives) and formed working middle classes in other countries. I want my children to have a good job here in the future.

Frank Ellis's avatar

This article, and most of the comments on all sides of our situation are well written and the deep divide and confusion is clear for all to see. I do believe that "only time will tell" applies perfectly. It is my thinking our ever growing $37 trillion debt, and huge interest payments that come along with it are at the core of America's problems. No one is addressing this, and the terrible truth seems to be that politically it can not be dealt with. Did not Musk/DOGE prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt? Who could possibly be elected now while cutting down the size of the federal government, and the odds on Trump's plan to grow our economy enough to support all of this spending are what?

StarboardEdge's avatar

Hi Frank -

Odds are NOT good and every word of your comment is straight-up FACT, IMO.

It's a shame we can't put the distractive bickering aside and come together to address the root issue that you have perfectly outlined. After all, there are at least 325 millions of us (Citizens) and only 535 of them.

Back of the Napkin - I calculate around 67 Barrels of Tar and 2,388 chickens will be necessary. Plus we can have a great BBQ afterward and figure out how we'll deal with the 2.3 million generally Do-Nothing Unelected Bureaucrats that remain...

who cares's avatar

blah blah blah - something new is tried, I happen to agree with Rickards. The American consumer is tapped out, if industry could have charged more for their product they would have. The Tariffs will be bore by the importer/exporter, else their stuff will simply sit on shelves. All you do for the last 3 or 4 years of this newsletter, as I been following this board is cry the sky is falling, the sky is falling yet, I get up in the morning and I put on my blues, then I walk to chow in my shiny shoes.

Guess what, the sky, it hasn't fallen. I'm not saying someday it won't, in fact it most likely will. But Geez BB, give the guy a break. New attempts at correcting past F ups are warranted. You and your democratic brethren certainly mucked up the fed go've almost to the point of non-repair.

Why do you insist on faulting the man trying. For an intelligent man that you once were (BB(based on history, yes I been reader of one newsletter or another for probably 25- 30 years)) you sure have become a chronic cry baby.

John P Gallien's avatar

I don't know what we would do without Bonner gleaning the MSM for every negative comment about the Trump administration policies.

Hey, Bill? Could you give us an update on what's going on with the Trump administration's actions on energy production, including deregulation so that nuclear power plants can be built in a timely manner. And what the EPA is doing to get rid of onerous regulations that have accumulated over the years as well as promotion of oil, gas, and coal development and minimizing the wasteful solar energy and windmill developments. Just wondering if you are looking at some of the important things that are happening besides the negative stuff the MSM spits out on a daily basis.

Don Hrehirchek's avatar

Well John, from My side of the ledger, all that is being proposed takes more than one day to accomplish. Most likely will not happen in MR.T.'s time as Pres. I mean the fruits, if that is a proper term. I would like to see many of His works for America to come to pass. But what he is doing to the rest of His trading partners has something to be desired from My view .

pete's avatar

I guess this means a re-ordering as the swamp gets flooded. Besides my understanding was the EU annointed was accelerating their net zero goals away from those dirty assets and asses.

1.Currency war

2.Trade war

3.World war ?

1930 redux?

Lewis Sanders's avatar

I want to cancel this "service". Mostly trash.

Sierradenali's avatar

The point is rather dull.