We see machines that can do almost everything, physically and mentally, that a human can do. But with none of the sick days or bad attitudes that characterize our race.
"In 1914, Henry Ford shocked the world by doubling his factory workers' pay to
$5 a day and reducing shifts to eight hours to combat high turnover from the grueling, monotonous moving assembly line. This strategic move stabilized the workforce, boosted productivity, and allowed workers to buy the cars they built."
I have to wonder if this will now be undone. How many consumer products does a robot buy?
First I took offense "put a second refrigerator in the garage" been there done that, but its so the noisy behemoth doesn't go to the dump, but instead store so much for the Great Thai cook wife. Whats wrong with that?
But then China never invaded? Ask the Vietnamese, or the Phillipino fisherman, about real examples and not the Taiwanese or Japanese getting all the threats. PUHLEASE.
China invaded VietNam in 1979, and got a bloody nose for its troubles as the VietNamese were still hard as nails from their decade long fight with the US. I do get the 'US interferes all over, China happy as it is' narrative, but let's not fool ourselves that the Chinese won't be all over the rest of us (I'm a Brit) if the US folds on the global stage, and not in a good way. The US empire may be in terminal decline, I'd take it over a Chinese empire all day long (especially as I suspect the Chinese have a special need to humiliate my country for which they can hardly be blamed).
I spent 45 years working in engineering and made many trips to China and Japan. The speed that China evolved from the 1980's to today is truly amazing but I will take the USA any time when I compare our freedom of activity and movement. It is true we have too many bases globally (and I was in the Navy during Vietnam 65 - 68) and I believe we need to dial it back big time. There are intelligent people in every country. The country that makes the best use of these talents will make the most progress....I think!
I am not so afraid of robots, it's the people who program them that worry me. Machines only do what humans program them to do. More and more I see "Star Wars" being a future reality.
It all depends in how long before God looses his sense of humor.
"China does not blow up fishing boats". When is the last time you saw a fishing boat with 5 motors, no fishing equipment, and drugs on the deck? The cargo on these boats is responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths. "It has never invaded another country nor even threatened to do so". Tibet? It daily threatens Taiwan with rhetoric, missiles overhead, and navel blockades. You can say at one time they were one but now they have been separate for 80 years and I bet almost no Taiwanese want any part of that dystopian state.
I think Bill needs a trip to China. "You no have cancer" is this AI response or Bill's? China has most certainly invaded other countries. I am wondering what Bill's thoughts are about.
Really excellent philosophical prose! You raise some valid arguments. One has to be careful couching China as the good guy vs. the USA as the bad guy. The Rule of Law may be what separates us from our communist neighbor? Are there more constraints on the behavior of Western nations versus Eastern communist nations? What's with the shotgun behind the robot doctor? I had a good chuckle over that! Thanks!
From Google AI:
"In 1914, Henry Ford shocked the world by doubling his factory workers' pay to
$5 a day and reducing shifts to eight hours to combat high turnover from the grueling, monotonous moving assembly line. This strategic move stabilized the workforce, boosted productivity, and allowed workers to buy the cars they built."
I have to wonder if this will now be undone. How many consumer products does a robot buy?
First I took offense "put a second refrigerator in the garage" been there done that, but its so the noisy behemoth doesn't go to the dump, but instead store so much for the Great Thai cook wife. Whats wrong with that?
But then China never invaded? Ask the Vietnamese, or the Phillipino fisherman, about real examples and not the Taiwanese or Japanese getting all the threats. PUHLEASE.
China invaded VietNam in 1979, and got a bloody nose for its troubles as the VietNamese were still hard as nails from their decade long fight with the US. I do get the 'US interferes all over, China happy as it is' narrative, but let's not fool ourselves that the Chinese won't be all over the rest of us (I'm a Brit) if the US folds on the global stage, and not in a good way. The US empire may be in terminal decline, I'd take it over a Chinese empire all day long (especially as I suspect the Chinese have a special need to humiliate my country for which they can hardly be blamed).
I'm hoping that we get maybe a 20-30 year break with no obvious hegemon rulng over the world.
I spent 45 years working in engineering and made many trips to China and Japan. The speed that China evolved from the 1980's to today is truly amazing but I will take the USA any time when I compare our freedom of activity and movement. It is true we have too many bases globally (and I was in the Navy during Vietnam 65 - 68) and I believe we need to dial it back big time. There are intelligent people in every country. The country that makes the best use of these talents will make the most progress....I think!
Jim Marshall
I am not so afraid of robots, it's the people who program them that worry me. Machines only do what humans program them to do. More and more I see "Star Wars" being a future reality.
It all depends in how long before God looses his sense of humor.
Jim Marshall
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh... Voltaire
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Agentic Ai will have those robots thinking amongst themselves soon.
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Machine is reaching for God through man by way of nature's natural selection process...
We will all likely be cyborgs one day...
"China does not blow up fishing boats". When is the last time you saw a fishing boat with 5 motors, no fishing equipment, and drugs on the deck? The cargo on these boats is responsible for 10s of thousands of deaths. "It has never invaded another country nor even threatened to do so". Tibet? It daily threatens Taiwan with rhetoric, missiles overhead, and navel blockades. You can say at one time they were one but now they have been separate for 80 years and I bet almost no Taiwanese want any part of that dystopian state.
You praise the Chinese, arguably the most homogeneous society in the world. Is it possible that diversity is not our strength?
...the best places to live on the planet are homogonous societies.
The liberal slogan "Diversity is our Strength" makes no sense unless it has context.
Liberals don't understand this...
BPR was just questioning the gigantic U.S. Ai capex.
Now Bill writes about the wonderous technical gains U.S. adversaries have accomplished.
No mention of the numerous U.S. achievements in the field of robotics.
It's reads more like Chinese propagation.
At least Mr Bonner confirms the Ai era is upon us and it's going to change everything...
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China does not allow diversity... at least in the same manner the U.S. does.
If some of that "great U.S. diversity" were directed to "conformity" our education system might actually compete.
I think Bill needs a trip to China. "You no have cancer" is this AI response or Bill's? China has most certainly invaded other countries. I am wondering what Bill's thoughts are about.
Really excellent philosophical prose! You raise some valid arguments. One has to be careful couching China as the good guy vs. the USA as the bad guy. The Rule of Law may be what separates us from our communist neighbor? Are there more constraints on the behavior of Western nations versus Eastern communist nations? What's with the shotgun behind the robot doctor? I had a good chuckle over that! Thanks!