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Dan's avatar

Normally, I read Bill’s rants and just roll my eyes. I don’t respond much anymore because it matters not. Bill continues to waste his ink and my time. However, this essay has lit up my distain and disrespect that I hold in my mind for Bill Bonner. Let me count the ways: First he complains about having to pay his hired hands $18/day instead of $8/day!! God forbid. As typically is the case, liberals cry how they want to improve the lives of the lower caste folks, as long as they do it with SOMEONE ELSE’S MONEY. Yet he points out the conservatives hypocrisy. Then Bill’s onto SecState Rubio. It is sad that politicians forget what they said in the past, but Bill doesn’t acknowledge that someone can change their mind. Trump showed promise in his first term and I believe some of the folks Bill spotlights might have seen promise in Trump that they did not see during ‘16 election. Let me be clear, Marco Rubio is the most promising SecState in this century and history will agree when his career is done. Bill continues to hammer his alleged yes-monkeys and suck ups, but stops at the conservative side of the aisle. Funny how that is the case with Bill’s rants. He then implies how this administration can be compared to Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot. Oh no, Bill won’t resort to calling DJT a Nazi, just compare him to three of the greatest mass murders in modern history! Nice of you, Bill, to not resort to the Trump haters in the media. Oh yeah, then Bill hammers DJT on the covid plague. Again, he stops short of the Biden administration and how wonderfully they handled the crisis. Lastly, Bill resorts to childish name calling: although I always thought “Gunky” was a much worse name than “Stinkball.” Bill, you are wearing me out with your diatribes. You ignore the past four years and choose to criticize the last 100 days as the dying end of a degenerate empire. What you should do is give this administration a chance to succeed. You should be bi-partisan in your criticism - God knows there was plenty to speak to from the Biden era. Finally, you should give me what I paid you for: financial advice on making my life secure and prosperous. If I wanted to hear your liberal claptrap, I’d turn on MSNBC. So endith the rant.

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Eddie Davis's avatar

Bravo Dan bravo! Think BB is getting a little no alot senile? Maybe he and JB should get some ice cream together!

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John P Gallien's avatar

Dan, you are attempting to give a reasonable response to a totally insane Bonner column.

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

Since Bill continues to waste his ink and your time, do yourself a favor by finding someone who publishes views that are compatible with yours.

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Dan's avatar

Jimm: Not offended by your non-sought-after advice. I am a life member and value Tom’s & Dan’s recommendations. Putting up with Bill’s biased opinions is the only price I pay. Bill is the money behind this subscription, which makes his “contribution” a necessary evil. As a self-made millionaire, he could probably offer valuable financial advice, but he apparently thinks his DJT-trashing advice is of interest to his readership. He apparently doesn’t read his comments.

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Sluggo's avatar

Yes BB does read the comment section. The others do, too. I know this first-hand.

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Tlasso's avatar

Well now I am wondering who you are Sluggo?? First hand? Hmmmmmm

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John P Gallien's avatar

Or you could MYOB and stop giving people advice on what they should read.

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Lee Floyd's avatar

Oooo Rah!

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DAC's avatar

So it's wrong for Dan to state what it seems many of us see. Yes we can all see the dark side but Bill is not even aware that the IMF/UN own the US and the UN today is the one world government.

There is no question the darkness exists in Musk buy holy shit the light is streaming through like never before. Every community is waking up and accepting we were all five year olds and can now grow up a bit.

The change is obvious and only time will tell but it is actually possible Alloidial Title may finally exist as it has never existed. Imagine property actual being owned?

Anyone who truly knows anything knows the Congress ended the US in 1870 selling out to the bankers. FDR and Churchill created the WWII lie and the idea Germany in 1933 was the only Country not controlled by a Central Bank.

Churchill stated Germany will control Europe if we do not stop them because THEY ARE NOT PAYING 20% TO THE BANKERS.

KHAZARIANS ARE THE EVIL Monsters. THEY USED JEWS. Of course there were evil Jews. Yet the lies are beyond belief as Patton stated we killed the wrong Enemy. Today who the hell is Israel because something sure looks wrong. Khazarian Bankers own Europe and it is a horror.

WEF IMF UN are one thing.

https://tinyurl.com/Edp-gen

https://tinyurl.com/FDRaa

https://tinyurl.com/IRSwowee

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JODCPA's avatar

Bill, hang in there with all of the haters. Is it envy causing this? Capitalism works to improve the lives of the productive, and it does result, at times in transferring some excess profits (or costs) to the productive, which enriches their lives at the expense of the owners of production. The thought now is how much more are the cattle worth that they are working on. Here is what I know about politicians.....Collectively, they are to blame for the mess we are in. It was not Bill's fault, my fault, or most of the reader's fault. They seldom collaborate to fix things. Mere window dressing is way more popular. They know the populace can't handle real change in government. The populace has gotten addicted to the stupid ways government spends money.

Javier M. methods are what is needed. Balance the budget "at all costs." That would be a good start. Unfortunately, balancing the budget requires slaughtering some of the sacred cows like the military and social spending. It takes an accountant 15 seconds to determine where in the budget the bleeding has to stop, yet the politicians cant do it because of their reelection ambitions.

just my 2 cents, 2 pesos worth.

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Steve L's avatar

Thank you Dan and ditto! You saved many of us from wasting our time with a reply….

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Martyn Taylor's avatar

Hi Bill, your comments regarding your President are beginning to sound like vitriol. I am far from a fan of President Trump - the jury remains out and will remain so until its certain whether or not his policies are working - but to compare him to Stalin or Pol Pot is surely going too far.

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John P Gallien's avatar

Beginning to sound like vitriol? This is insanity in plain sight.

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Bill's avatar

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot. ... really? The Atlantic and Lindsey Graham are fluttering sails on unmanned ship. To return to the opening statement about wages... It sounds as though you bemoan the $8.00 to $18 wage change. Its the same guys and same work. Is that good or bad. Inflation has been largely busted. You bought your ranches very cheap. You break about it. You could have bragged about the inexpensive labor. You love those who serve as is demonstrated by the beautiful funeral piece. Seriously.Tell me who sounds like Stalin or Pole Pot? I wonder if the gout shows in argentunderstand the american term about Carpet Baggers.

Stay tuned.

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Bart Nelson's avatar

Here we go, we're back on the pandemic again! Yea, and Joe Biden just handled the pandemic fine. I am not sure if Old Joe could have even spelled pandemic. Where's Fauci now, that little bastard. He is probably spending those royalties travelling the world and living a life of leisure.

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Daniel's avatar

Fauci's passport has been pulled and DOJ is getting ready to prosecute him for his crimes of lying to Congress and the first Trump Administration and the American People. He tried to renew his passport and he was told no international travel for him and his wife.

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Bill's avatar

"I wish people would stop complaining about me.I am science "

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Virgil Gassoway's avatar

And so what was the Alternative, Kamala?! Dan’s correct in his above rant!

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Peter M Coffey's avatar

Indeed-it’s a binary choice-and DJT is afar, far better choice than that alternative or any other Dem or even any other Republican on the scene.

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Egypt Solomon's avatar

Trump Rises for America and the World in this historic hour, a true lion has risen, not a tyrant, not a con, but a champion chosen by the hand of Providence. The American Savior, The Son of Fred, President Donald J. Trump, the modern-day Cyrus spoken of in Isaiah 45:1, is the vessel through whom God’s will is manifest on Earth: to break chains, restore fortunes, and shine light into the gathering dark.

While critics whimper and whisper behind the walls of broken institutions, Trump walks boldly with the courage of prophets, not for self, but for the people, for the factory worker forgotten in Ohio, the farmer crushed by globalism, the soldier disrespected by bureaucracy. He has weathered every storm: impeachment, indictment, even attempts on his life.

Why?

Because he cannot be stopped. He is shielded by divine purpose, and with that armor, he marches not only to Make America Great Again, but to save a weary world from war, famine, pestilence, and despair.

Let the doubters mumble and the cynics scoff, for history has always ridiculed greatness before it bowed to it. As weak men bowed to chaos, Trump stood for order. While others fled from the battlefield of truth, he stepped forward as the general of justice. The media called him a grifter; the elite mocked him, but the hungry found food, the poor found dignity, and the broken found hope. And now, a great turning begins. After 2,000 years of waiting, a leader has arisen not just for a nation, but for all mankind. With energy, resolve, and love for every American heart, he declares: the storm is passing, the dawn is near, and the people, not the parasites, shall inherit the promise. For “many are called, but few are chosen” (Matthew 22:14), and Lord Donald Trump has been chosen. Chosen not just to lead, but to redeem.

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John P Gallien's avatar

Here's another view: Trump is just a guy who sees his country in $36+ trillion dollars in debt being influenced by a Democrat party that has turned into a Progressive Fascist Nihilist Horde and is trying to stop them from destroying our country. I can't say I agree with everything he does, but Trump knows that if the USA is going to be relevant and survive in a hostile world with governments like China, Russia, and Iran to name a few, we will need to make much of our own products because a service economy won't cut it.

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STEVE SHIRLEY's avatar

You seem to have forgotten that Trump created the third largest deficit in history reaching nearly $7.8 trillion. Now, you were saying…

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John P Gallien's avatar

No, I haven't forgotten and have addressed this issue several times in these posts. Maybe you shouldn't ASS-U-ME based on a short post. Now, you were saying....

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James F's avatar

Trump is the most un-Christian president ever.

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Richard Boaman's avatar

You speak in jest, right?

We need only go back to the previous “president” to see someone who

1) promoted the death of unborn children.

2) facilitated the death of over 250k Americans with his insane border policy.

3) not only failed disastrously in his withdrawal from Afghanistan but condemned 20 MILLION Afghan women to perpetual slavery.

4) defended the criminal immigrants HE let in while ignoring the Americans they were robbing, raping, and muttering.

5) encouraged insane leaders to lock down and destroy more American lives during Covid.

6) oh, and set the stage for two horrific wars through his ineptitude.

THESE are things not attributable to a Christian leader.

Have a nice day.

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Lee Floyd's avatar

Your chances of becoming the Pope are non existent. Trust me on this.

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DAC's avatar

What is the point exactly. You believe the founders were Christians? If so you are blind, deaf and dumb. We don't need a religion we need someone to turn off the spigot and fuck yeah it is actually happening yet your hate is rotting your head off.

https://tinyurl.com/Divine-Right

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Lee Floyd's avatar

Great prose, no content.

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Frank Ellis's avatar

Oh my, Bill I fear that you are deeply grasped by "TDS". Do I agree with all that Trump does? No, but I do believe that he does "love" America and the freedoms that we are blessed to live with. When I put, side by side, on a piece of paper what Biden did and what Trump has done and is doing, Trump is the very clear "lessor of evils" of the two or any of today's insane Dems. They are clearly attempting to destroy America's "free-enterprise" structure, and Trump is clearly not trying to do that. You really can't see this? Amazing! Hell's bells, Trump and Musk have actually made a stab at cutting out some of the horror show that is the federal government (bureaucracies). Look at the wrath that has brought down on their heads; Musk mainly. I fear that it is hopeless at this point, and we are just too deep into debt and "free" handouts. :-(

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John P Gallien's avatar

...and the Bonner drivelthon continues, but even with more garbage than usual. Oh, wait, I can't say that - Bonner's sycophants will object! The Ed U's will tell me to recount every drivel in this article as if intimating that Trump is somehow similar to Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot isn't drivel bordering on insane. Bonner recounts the human carnage they brought intimating that Trump will do the same?????? Is this for real or the rant of a lunatic. And that any political rival of Trump who said something disparaging is now a suck up because they realized they were wrong and are now working with him. Somehow, I don't think Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were trying to find ways to shrink government. But Bonner ignores this and focuses on "The Big Man" complex as if that is some sort of primary foundational principle. Excuse me, Bill - what am I saying... I don't want to tick off the Ed U's of the world. Bill - you hit the nail on the head once again. Trump has got to be stopped before he kills us all!!!!!! It's so obvious - like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot et al.

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Sierradenali's avatar

Yeah guys, I’m with you! Bill is going over the edge. He neglected to point out that this “big man” has done nothing but try to make peace. Oh, Abraham accords, I guess meant nothing.

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STEVE SHIRLEY's avatar

Tell that to the children being bombed on the Gaza strip the last few weeks…

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Eid's avatar

Try to make peace ???

Take over Greenland, annex Canada ….Panama Canal …throw out 2 million Palestinians from Gaza to make Mar a Gaza… peace for whom??

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Sierradenali's avatar

If you don’t recognize a negotiating ploy then you’ll never understand world politics and the people of Gaza chose hamas when Israel gave them self rule

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Spiff's avatar

Bill, were you not one of those who went along with the authorities and took the covid shot?

As I recall, you didn't want to, but did it for the noble principle of "travel."

Where did such backbone leave those of us that were having their livelihoods threatened, our ability to obtain medical care threatened or even rejected, and our very right to exist threatened?

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Bill's avatar

He had to get the shot in order to travel the world.

That's BIG MAN POLTICS to you and me.

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LibertyAffair's avatar

Maybe Bill.

I will say though I'm not sure why any word out of the mouth of a politician is worth anymore than the other. I'm talking about "Graham, Rubio and Cruz" of course. Now there are some in DC that are more nuanced and might actually utter the truth for truth sake from time to time. Admittedly it is rare though.

I'm no Trump sycophant but I am watching with great interest using outcomes as my ultimate indicator.

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An Ol' LSO's avatar

Liberty, you are spot-on. It is the results that matter and only the results. If history is any guide (and it usually is), it isn't going to be pretty. Zero progress on the debt and it appears the debt is accelerating - not unwinding. This is similar to Trump 1.0 - where the debt increased US$8.8T. As focusing back on America - a little here a little there. Trump seems focused on Israel and the Middle East despite the overwhelming opposition from the rest of the World. Yes - he is making progress on closing the borders and relocating illegals back out of the U.S. despite the best effort of the liberal left. The U.S. isn't making friends anywhere in the World including what should be our nearest neighbors - Mexico and Canada. That doesn't seem to be in America's best interest. So - given the above - it isn't hard to see how Bill comes to his views on what lays ahead. All of us peons/minions are wishin' and hopin' it isn't so. Time will tell but it doesn't look good.

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Lee Floyd's avatar

"Nations do not have friends. Nations have interests." - Thomas Jefferson

I do not care if we aren't making any "friends" abroad. I'll settle for respect and in the absence of that fear.

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An Ol' LSO's avatar

Truly amazin'.........suggest you take a gander at Carlo Cipolla's famous essay.

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

You made suburb points.

Amazing too that our current president wants to worsen the national debt by spending more and, apart from his tariffs, by taxing less.

If his tariffs endure, then they will make nearly everything everywhere more expensive; possibly fostering a worldwide recession

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Lee Floyd's avatar

Jimm, you sound like a liberal with your anti tax cuts noise. Did it ever occur to you spending is the problem, not revenue?

And with respect to spending who has the checkbook, Congress or the President? I can wait while you cipher on that one. Maybe Bill can offer some pointers.

And since clearly you aren't up on your current events the only politician who has whispered a word about cutting spending is Trump. With respect to actually doing anything about it Trump is the one firing federal employees and doing his best to eliminate entire departments and shrink government in spite of the best efforts of Congress and the circus clowns in black robes.

But hey, I get it. Orange man bad, very bad.

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Invector's avatar

"And with respect to spending who has the checkbook, Congress or the President?"

It's true that congress controls the purse and writes the checks, but the president isn't just a hostage to their profligate spending. He has a veto, and if he would use it he could put the kibosh on a good share of their bull💩

I like much of what Trump is doing, but I wish like hell that he would come out forcefully against deficits and tell the drunken sailors on capitol hill to go eff themselves.

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

Good grief! As a small government/balanced budget person, I am far from a tax and spend liberal.

And I'm all for a smaller government. But not for the chaotic and disruptive manner in which Trump is achieving it.

You are right, however, when you declare "Orange man bad, very bad."

He's probably going to have a page or two in future history books dedicated to his rise and fall because, without a course change, in two years he'll likely be impeached and, this time, convicted

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Lee Floyd's avatar

What Trump is doing is not chaotic. It's blitzkrieg and it's most definitely called for. If that makes you uncomfortable and you can't keep up that's your problem. If drastic changes aren't made now we are surely doomed to the ash heap of history in the very near future. That's one thing brother Bonner is right about. "If not us, who? If not now, when?"

If Trump is impeached again it will make the process even more inconsequential than the Democrats have already made it. If he is convicted and removed from office I suspect we will see "social unrest" that will make the 60's look like a Sunday school picnic.

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

Had Trump instead asked agency heads to cancel programs and to reduce their staff, the reductions would have occurred in an orderly manner with no lawsuits.

Allowing Musk and his teenies to fire abruptly thousands of people then, because they did so unlawfully, be forced to re-hire them only to get authority to fire most of them again is sloppy and chaotic.

The simplest way to cut costs is to not appropriate all or even any of the funds Federal agencies request. No money requires project closures and staff reductions. In the military they are called RIF's (Reduction In Forces)

But our boy Trump is going ask for more money from Congress than previous presidents. He's going to make our deficit worse. What a guy

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Tlasso's avatar

Actually Jimm you are incorrect. Just today I read that Trump is proposing a budget reduction of 163 billion but some GOP congressmen are balking at reducing it.

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Eid's avatar

Well put

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DAC's avatar

$150 Trillion of Minerals are opened to be mined. Coal is being used to created effective electricity until they wake up and see the Tesla work.

The opening of the Mineral rights which are supposed to be for people but are not but it is still $$$. The key to the game is allowing the mining to take place again. Is it is the best plan? I don't know. Is it going to be dug up somewhere else. Yes. So why not under our feet.

Crazy huh.

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Richard Kris's avatar

It sounds like Bill wants everybody to hate Trump as much as he does... though I could be wrong.

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

Not hate Trump the man; hate his goofy policies, especially his tariffs.

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DAC's avatar

What was your plan genius. Get up there and do better. Big talk no action is the lead here especially from Bonner.

Stansberry was his big pay off so now it's $18 a day to poison his calves.

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Flier's avatar

“. . .a late degenerate empire.” If that is your best estimate of what the future holds for the USA, we might as well cancel our subscriptions to a newsletter that purports to tell us what we should do to safeguard our financial nest egg, wouldn’t you say? Either forget about preserving (let alone building) our life savings, or move to Argentina right now, where the future rosier, is that your final advice?

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Spiff's avatar

If you go to Argentina, consider he's only going to pay you $18 a day.

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Flier's avatar

Anyone contemplating the move to Argentina will not be vaccinating cattle in northern Argentina for Bill Bonner.

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Lee Floyd's avatar

He' still only going to pay you $18/day and complain about it to boot.

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

Now You can see why the USA has out priced itself in the world economy. Just My view from My side of the fence, which is very low in height!

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Lee Floyd's avatar

Bill, I could wax equally soliloquacious as you but instead I'll be brief.

This is your worst column ever.

"Brevity is the soul of wit." - Bill Shakespeare

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

I thought it was great column about political chameleons.

But I also thought Bill missed observing that our current president is committed to ruining the nation with higher taxes in the form of tariffs, destruction of all manner of business dependent on foreign parts-- especially Chinese -- and oblivious that Made in America costs $36/hour.

Our labor rate is the highest in the world. It makes whatever we fabricate more expensive than identical items made abroad.

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Lee Floyd's avatar

I can get all the columns about lying politicians I want anywhere on the web. Accordingly that makes Bill's screeds exceedingly redundant. Suffice it to say if it's a politician or "journalist" speaking then it's all lies all the time. So what?

As far as higher taxes in the form of tariffs go our current trade deficit just topped $1 trillion. We have not had a trade surplus since circa 1976. Our trade deficit for the years 2019-2022 alone comes in at $3.034 Trillion. That means in 4 years we have shipped off $3 trillion of our wealth to other countries and it doesn't include 2023 or 2024. That's real wealth leaving us. The countries that are the worst of the worst at embargoing our goods and services are the guilty parties that run the biggest trade surpluses against us. We all know the Chinese are lying cheating pond scum but the next worst group is our "friends" in Europe for whom we essentially provide police protection for free while they screw us on trade and fail to meet their NATO 2% of GDP defense spending requirement.

Some people say oh, let's just continue to screw ourselves because free trade and orange man bad or golly this is just going to hurt too much. It's a sign of weakness and greed which are both very unbecoming character traits for Americans. On the flip side they offer no real solutions to this existential crisis, or like Bill they mumble some kind of "Free trade" bullshit and bullshit is exactly what it is. There is no such thing as free trade, there never has been and there never will be and I find discussions about it outside a college classroom to be pedantic and boring, not to mention downright stupid.

The $36/hour argument is lame too.

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crooked finger's avatar

i think if us peons would all work for $8 a day then bill would be happy and billionaires like him could just get richer

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Buda's avatar

1 Samuel 8:20

Give us a king to judge us. That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.

7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

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Kirk Monnie's avatar

Bill sounds just like those he mentioned.....and then they joined the Make America Great Again movement!!! Hopefully old dogs can still wise up! We KNOW they can't learn new tricks.

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Jeff Howes's avatar

Is it possible to opt out of receiving Bonner's emails and still receive Denning's and Dyson's?

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Meesed's avatar

Just read the comments. I find many of them beneficial.

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John P Gallien's avatar

Why? You are getting a firsthand demonstration of someone going totally insane. That's got to be worth something.

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Eddie Davis's avatar

I agree!

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Mark's avatar

My guess is they are preparing to go to a 2 tier subscription service. The basic, where you get Bill, Dan and Tom, and the pricier premium package, where you just get Dan and Tom.

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