Indeed! It would have been to revealing and embarrassing when he started naming those politicians to whom he donated. The Dems (and a few Republicans) could not allow for that. So they had him arrested.
Assuming he wants to live, he might want to hide a go pro in his cell. And not take any calls from Killary. With 4 mysterious crypto deaths in the past few weeks, could a 5th be on tap.
Haha - yes indeed. What a s...t show. The piss taking is so in our faces now that you have to think there's an end game not too far down the pike? Or are we just more aware?
I'll be quite amazed if you're wrong Taco. The whole thing is some sort of scam - and I don't profess to understand the specifics of it (the general direction I think I get completely)- but it's impossible to believe that this clown could have amassed that sort of money without some serious help. So he's a gone-burger, with way too many power players swinging in the breeze once he starts yabbering. It won't change anything - but good riddance
This comment from the new FTX CEO John Ray III is priceless: "FTX Group’s collapse appears to stem from the absolute concentration of control in the hands of a very small group of grossly inexperienced and unsophisticated individuals who failed to implement virtually any of the systems or controls that are necessary for a company that is entrusted with other people’s money or assets."
Once again, you are exactly SPOT ON. Thank you for looking just a tiny bit beyond the distraction of the mushroom cloud. So many criminal tangles in this nasty, nasty web - and each strand is likely anchored by one (or more) of our "Leaders", "Elites" and "Venerable Institutions."
NO WAY is the main thread going be allowed a good tugging.
Bye-bye Samalamadingdong. Ere, we hardly knew ye...
Don't forget the back door money laundering of US aid to Ukraine funneled back to the Dem party support groups through FTX holdings.
Absolute guarantee there will be NO testimony from SBF, no way to unravel the corruption steering this.
It was masterminded by the deep statists using this disposable twit as a front man. Set up by his own parents no less. He will be expired before he hits the stand.
Tears will flow and all will be forgotten by the next election cycle.
SE. You have to understand. This guy is like any other liberal, statist he will defend what this country does, no matter how vile.  his blatant disrespect for others is ridiculous.  I am 6 foot five 240 pounds and workout six days a week and I have a policy of treating everyone with respect and courtesy that they deserve.  He  tells us constantly he is a “warrior”.  If he was in fact, a warrior, he would be in Ukraine fighting for democracy lol! It’s all BS. He is what we used to call a telephone tough guy, but now they have moved on to a keyboard “warrior“. 
Hmmmm, it kind of HAS been proven, but only if one is willing to look at facts.
1. The UKE "government" takes BILLIONS from us in "Foreign Aid", read Taxpayer funding.
2. The UKE "government" was listed on the FTX website as a major investor in their coin, a fact backed up by additional news articles, attributable comments and voluminous tweets. The majority of this information has since been snuffed from view, though the screenshots are still out there. To simplify, this means the UKE "government", um, er, "invested" MILLIONS in FTX/SBF.
3. SBF then donates MILLIONS (and that is just the figure claimed by the FEC) in "Campaign Contributions" to both D's & R's, with around 93% of the admitted donations (so far) going to the dims. Also facts.
Yet you await more "proof" of chicanery involving the beloved Ukraine. Your personal bias is unmistakable in your comments, which all boil down to:
A. ALL THINGS UKRAINIAN GOOD (including the NAZIS, Civilian Massacres, Penis Piano and Perverts.)
B. Republicants, whose buttocks are slightly caught in this wringing sh*tstorm, accepted the "donations" without their "knowledge." (Ummm, wut?)
PG - we're on the same team brother and both want to fix this mess and restore our Country to what it is meant to be, but in the words of someone we both despise -
It seems that at every turn the Dems have a trick or three up their sleeves. Honesty, Integrity and Morals have simply left the room. Politics has always been a dirty business, but today's actors are so brazen and confident they won't get caught it is mind-boggling. The US has truly turned into a 'former' great country, run by despots and criminals.
My best guess is that nothing will come of all this, except a good, short-lived story. All perps will walk...They probably do need Sammy out of the way, however...
Sam Bankman is getting Fried! Another classic example of a CIA operative gone astray, funneling billions to the Ukraine, Putin decided to Put-in end to it. Hahaha! He should read the book, “Choose your own adventure, The Cave of Time”, but that’s not a requirement at Harvy anymore.
PG, your right about everything except your loving brother Volodymyr, as those same "SCUMOCRATS" you despise, are all lovers of the same SCUMOKRAINIAN...and Putin was right, "Amerika" is fully controlled by evil, thats China my brother, not Russia.
Nothing official, tied in to the British Monarchy. Since the passing of the Queen, internal problems unraveled FTX gaps and King Charles walks away smelling like a bed of roses.
The “generous” donations to aid Ukraine from the monarchy diminished. Russia advised the monarchy to stop sending Ukrainian financial support. FTX was an excellent tool. There is always a trail to follow, even under a “ghost protocol” or crypto platform, but in this case it will be nearly impossible to make a connection beyond Mr. Fried
Case Disposition, FTX crypto technological error and internal platform configuration disclosure override. The lost money was legally distributed and donated to a “good cause”, but due to the platform’s file corruption and block chain information misappropriation, the precise location of the donations cannot be verified. LMAO!
Therefore the defendant did not steal or use the money for personal or financial gain, and the court recommends that Mr. Sammy Boy can no longer operate a crypto exchange business. No jail time. Slap on the wrist.
The crowd goes wild, people applauding and crying! 👏👏👏😂🥲😂
Crypto’s have no utility or intrinsic value. Hence, its only value can be in terms of a currency. But, as a currency unless we burn the equivalent amount of fiat it’s simply more money chasing the same level of goods and services. All cryptos do is cause more inflation while consuming enormous amounts of energy to create them … causing even more inflation!!
I am not a among the cryptocurrency crowd. But, I don’t understand how a cryptocurrency is different than the US dollar. Both get their value by what the market will pay for it. A cryptocurrency may have lost 90% of it value in a couple weeks and it took the US dollar a little longer but it too has lost 90% of it’s value.
Cryptocurrency is volatile because it is perceived as just numbers and not something physical we touch. Stablecoins are an attempt to do what they are called: stabilize a digital value. The crypto market moves fast on any given day and there are no rules against limiting gains or crashes. I’ve seen ETH move in 15 min straight up and down doubling or halving it’s value. It is Elliott Wave Theory at light speed! 😂
and there is documentary evidence of this particularity of gold to keep the value intrinsically attached to its weight and quality (not mixed with lead for example). I will not go back 2000 years but only some 400 years by compensating the relative youth of my example by the quality of the author of the document in question; no other than William Schakespear in his 1597 play "the merchant of Venice". In this play and not related to the plot but rather as a "filler" in the margin of the plot two merchants are chatting between them and one says: "a gentleman's attire will cost him an ounce of gold". Funny how you will achieve today the same result with the very same ounce of gold.
Don't know much about digital currency. But, if I can't hold it in my hand one way or another, let the next guy try that stuff. He will tell me what I need to know. Old Sam probably will meet his Waterloo while in the hoosegow. Lots of young folks turning cold today with no apparent reason. Seems to be a problem when you mess with feds. Always count your fingers after the hand shake and watch your six.
Sam is a fool. Not as big a fool as those investors who trusted him with their money. The celebrity investors, the wealthy investors and those who invested someone else’s money, all are the bigger fools. The celebrities will be bragging at their next cocktail party how much they lost to ole Sam. The wealthy can shrug their shoulders, sigh, and walk away without too much regret cause they can afford the loss. Those smaller folks who trusted some “expert” investor to put their money in a safe place may feel much more the pain of the loss. Their “expert” investor may have only done what the money supplier requested. Their “expert” investor may have been a big proponent of cryptocurrencies [which leads one to question their “expert” designation]. In the end, all lose and only the lawyers win.
Now, let’s think about those folks who benefited from Sam’s legendary mental abilities. There is the fund managers that Sam gave money to [like his girlfriend]. There are the politicians who got campaign money from Sam [both sides of the aisle I hear]. There may be some who got money from Sam via an ‘under-the-table” transaction, like some government officials who have something to say about the legitimacy of crypto’s or politicians who were not running for re-elections but needed some cash for a rainy day. Or how about the Ukrainians who apparently used some US tax dollars needed for war to invest with Sam, who recycled the cash back to the US politicians for “campaign contributions.” What say we ask those persons to give back to the investors [small investors first] any of the money Sam gave them. Think that will happen? Naw, it ain’t gonna happen.
SBF is the mystical fall guy for all the assorted criminals reaping from the Ukrainian masquerade, left leaning slush fund. He will probably meet his demise too, alone in his cell.
My wonderful bottom line thinking wife asked me: “where did the money go?” To which I replied, “to all the players who traded their crypto for cash before it vaporized.” And because it’s crypto, she asked “is it traceable?” Well, these are great questions. Can you expand on this?
Crypto is traceable, for the most part. It all depends on how badly one wants to trace it.
The blockchains and the wallet addresses between whom transactions take place, are available for anyone with a computer to see how much was transacted, and by whom. While they are not tied to any known person, their wallet IDs are there for all to see.
Eventually, you have to come out "somewhere" to cash out. Most of the exchanges that allow transferring from a CRYPTO to a FIAT currency, have registered with their respective governments. That is where the feds can tie the anonymous to the known.
So yes, very traceable.
Easy to link the anonymous to the known?
Not in the least. But very possible given the right tools and the right know how.
And who better to unravel those mysterious anonymous wallet addresses than the USA's Federal Government 3 letter agencies?
That is, if the people that control their leashes, let them. :)
FTX was also a sponsor of the 2022 Mercedes F1 Team, something any onboard footage will clearly show. Mercedes F1 must be loving that it’s largely been missed in all media articles, and rest assured - they will be quietly removing those sponsorship stickers for next season!
Yes, here you go with your usual complementary remarks. I don't watch CNBC all the time but I do most of the time; but I would have thought that it would have been on other channels as well.
How many millions did other companies get from Trump that I doubt that will ever be paid back??
Sorry, I don't watch Days of Our Lives, but I'm sure you probably do. Fox news is notoriously bad for stretching the truth. Can't stand to watch it any more. But that's right up your alley. Trump-tied companies received millions in small business aid that actually went to large companies first: Ashford Hospitality Trust received $96.1M in loans, the highest amt received by any company under the program. The hotels are run by Trump donor Monty Bennett, who gave $548K to Republican candidates and groups. There were others that received money but Ashford got the most. I know you don't care so go ahead and drink your wine and live in la la land.
Arrested before he could testify before a congressional show trial.
Why does this feel so much like an Epstein moment?
Indeed! It would have been to revealing and embarrassing when he started naming those politicians to whom he donated. The Dems (and a few Republicans) could not allow for that. So they had him arrested.
Assuming he wants to live, he might want to hide a go pro in his cell. And not take any calls from Killary. With 4 mysterious crypto deaths in the past few weeks, could a 5th be on tap.
No conspiracies. But no coincidences.
Quickly took him off the public circuit they did.
Haha - yes indeed. What a s...t show. The piss taking is so in our faces now that you have to think there's an end game not too far down the pike? Or are we just more aware?
I'll be quite amazed if you're wrong Taco. The whole thing is some sort of scam - and I don't profess to understand the specifics of it (the general direction I think I get completely)- but it's impossible to believe that this clown could have amassed that sort of money without some serious help. So he's a gone-burger, with way too many power players swinging in the breeze once he starts yabbering. It won't change anything - but good riddance
This comment from the new FTX CEO John Ray III is priceless: "FTX Group’s collapse appears to stem from the absolute concentration of control in the hands of a very small group of grossly inexperienced and unsophisticated individuals who failed to implement virtually any of the systems or controls that are necessary for a company that is entrusted with other people’s money or assets."
But he had no time for reading books--classic.
Unravel everything with FTX and SBF and you will unwind
the Deep State,
RINOs (donations),
traitorous dems (donations),
Big Education (SBF's dad wrote the legal papers for FTX),
NGO's (mom was illegally funding dem voter registration as a tax exempt organization all while by $121 million worth real estate in the Bahamas),
foreign aid as money laundering operation,
SEC crookedness with the head of the SEC being in cahoots with SBF and the father of SBF's girlfriend that headed Alameda.
This is so big they can't let it see the light of day. That is why he was arrested to keep him from cross-examination as long as possible.
Hi Mr. Webb -
Once again, you are exactly SPOT ON. Thank you for looking just a tiny bit beyond the distraction of the mushroom cloud. So many criminal tangles in this nasty, nasty web - and each strand is likely anchored by one (or more) of our "Leaders", "Elites" and "Venerable Institutions."
NO WAY is the main thread going be allowed a good tugging.
Bye-bye Samalamadingdong. Ere, we hardly knew ye...
Don't forget the back door money laundering of US aid to Ukraine funneled back to the Dem party support groups through FTX holdings.
Absolute guarantee there will be NO testimony from SBF, no way to unravel the corruption steering this.
It was masterminded by the deep statists using this disposable twit as a front man. Set up by his own parents no less. He will be expired before he hits the stand.
Tears will flow and all will be forgotten by the next election cycle.
Pay no attention to those men behind the curtain!
It was point number 6.
SE. You have to understand. This guy is like any other liberal, statist he will defend what this country does, no matter how vile.  his blatant disrespect for others is ridiculous.  I am 6 foot five 240 pounds and workout six days a week and I have a policy of treating everyone with respect and courtesy that they deserve.  He  tells us constantly he is a “warrior”.  If he was in fact, a warrior, he would be in Ukraine fighting for democracy lol! It’s all BS. He is what we used to call a telephone tough guy, but now they have moved on to a keyboard “warrior“. 
Hmmmm, it kind of HAS been proven, but only if one is willing to look at facts.
1. The UKE "government" takes BILLIONS from us in "Foreign Aid", read Taxpayer funding.
2. The UKE "government" was listed on the FTX website as a major investor in their coin, a fact backed up by additional news articles, attributable comments and voluminous tweets. The majority of this information has since been snuffed from view, though the screenshots are still out there. To simplify, this means the UKE "government", um, er, "invested" MILLIONS in FTX/SBF.
3. SBF then donates MILLIONS (and that is just the figure claimed by the FEC) in "Campaign Contributions" to both D's & R's, with around 93% of the admitted donations (so far) going to the dims. Also facts.
Yet you await more "proof" of chicanery involving the beloved Ukraine. Your personal bias is unmistakable in your comments, which all boil down to:
A. ALL THINGS UKRAINIAN GOOD (including the NAZIS, Civilian Massacres, Penis Piano and Perverts.)
B. Republicants, whose buttocks are slightly caught in this wringing sh*tstorm, accepted the "donations" without their "knowledge." (Ummm, wut?)
PG - we're on the same team brother and both want to fix this mess and restore our Country to what it is meant to be, but in the words of someone we both despise -
"C'mon Man!"...
Yup. Nothing to see here. I guess not, if you're willfully blind.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ukrainian-government-launches-crypto-donation-website-with-ftx-kuna-and-everstake
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/
https://mronline.org/2022/11/17/ftx-partnership-with-ukraine-is-latest-chapter-in-shady-western-aid-saga/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/what-alleged-connection-sam-bankman-fried-ftx-democrats-ukraine
PS - "Stop. Or be removed."
Really PG? For a "Patriot", you sure have some strange notions about our Bill of Rights...
Yes David, and just maybe we wittness another (murder in jail) suiside by hanging...
Sounds plausible
It seems that at every turn the Dems have a trick or three up their sleeves. Honesty, Integrity and Morals have simply left the room. Politics has always been a dirty business, but today's actors are so brazen and confident they won't get caught it is mind-boggling. The US has truly turned into a 'former' great country, run by despots and criminals.
My best guess is that nothing will come of all this, except a good, short-lived story. All perps will walk...They probably do need Sammy out of the way, however...
Sam Bankman is getting Fried! Another classic example of a CIA operative gone astray, funneling billions to the Ukraine, Putin decided to Put-in end to it. Hahaha! He should read the book, “Choose your own adventure, The Cave of Time”, but that’s not a requirement at Harvy anymore.
PG, your right about everything except your loving brother Volodymyr, as those same "SCUMOCRATS" you despise, are all lovers of the same SCUMOKRAINIAN...and Putin was right, "Amerika" is fully controlled by evil, thats China my brother, not Russia.
Nothing official, tied in to the British Monarchy. Since the passing of the Queen, internal problems unraveled FTX gaps and King Charles walks away smelling like a bed of roses.
The “generous” donations to aid Ukraine from the monarchy diminished. Russia advised the monarchy to stop sending Ukrainian financial support. FTX was an excellent tool. There is always a trail to follow, even under a “ghost protocol” or crypto platform, but in this case it will be nearly impossible to make a connection beyond Mr. Fried
Case Disposition, FTX crypto technological error and internal platform configuration disclosure override. The lost money was legally distributed and donated to a “good cause”, but due to the platform’s file corruption and block chain information misappropriation, the precise location of the donations cannot be verified. LMAO!
Therefore the defendant did not steal or use the money for personal or financial gain, and the court recommends that Mr. Sammy Boy can no longer operate a crypto exchange business. No jail time. Slap on the wrist.
The crowd goes wild, people applauding and crying! 👏👏👏😂🥲😂
Crypto’s have no utility or intrinsic value. Hence, its only value can be in terms of a currency. But, as a currency unless we burn the equivalent amount of fiat it’s simply more money chasing the same level of goods and services. All cryptos do is cause more inflation while consuming enormous amounts of energy to create them … causing even more inflation!!
I am not a among the cryptocurrency crowd. But, I don’t understand how a cryptocurrency is different than the US dollar. Both get their value by what the market will pay for it. A cryptocurrency may have lost 90% of it value in a couple weeks and it took the US dollar a little longer but it too has lost 90% of it’s value.
Cryptocurrency is volatile because it is perceived as just numbers and not something physical we touch. Stablecoins are an attempt to do what they are called: stabilize a digital value. The crypto market moves fast on any given day and there are no rules against limiting gains or crashes. I’ve seen ETH move in 15 min straight up and down doubling or halving it’s value. It is Elliott Wave Theory at light speed! 😂
Yes but the drop in value wasn’t sanctioned, nor massaged to prevent people from freaking out.
97 but who is counting LOL
and there is documentary evidence of this particularity of gold to keep the value intrinsically attached to its weight and quality (not mixed with lead for example). I will not go back 2000 years but only some 400 years by compensating the relative youth of my example by the quality of the author of the document in question; no other than William Schakespear in his 1597 play "the merchant of Venice". In this play and not related to the plot but rather as a "filler" in the margin of the plot two merchants are chatting between them and one says: "a gentleman's attire will cost him an ounce of gold". Funny how you will achieve today the same result with the very same ounce of gold.
Reminds me of “The Emperor’s Clothes Cost Twenty Dollars”. 😃
Don't know much about digital currency. But, if I can't hold it in my hand one way or another, let the next guy try that stuff. He will tell me what I need to know. Old Sam probably will meet his Waterloo while in the hoosegow. Lots of young folks turning cold today with no apparent reason. Seems to be a problem when you mess with feds. Always count your fingers after the hand shake and watch your six.
Just sayin'
Don Harrell
Sam is a fool. Not as big a fool as those investors who trusted him with their money. The celebrity investors, the wealthy investors and those who invested someone else’s money, all are the bigger fools. The celebrities will be bragging at their next cocktail party how much they lost to ole Sam. The wealthy can shrug their shoulders, sigh, and walk away without too much regret cause they can afford the loss. Those smaller folks who trusted some “expert” investor to put their money in a safe place may feel much more the pain of the loss. Their “expert” investor may have only done what the money supplier requested. Their “expert” investor may have been a big proponent of cryptocurrencies [which leads one to question their “expert” designation]. In the end, all lose and only the lawyers win.
Now, let’s think about those folks who benefited from Sam’s legendary mental abilities. There is the fund managers that Sam gave money to [like his girlfriend]. There are the politicians who got campaign money from Sam [both sides of the aisle I hear]. There may be some who got money from Sam via an ‘under-the-table” transaction, like some government officials who have something to say about the legitimacy of crypto’s or politicians who were not running for re-elections but needed some cash for a rainy day. Or how about the Ukrainians who apparently used some US tax dollars needed for war to invest with Sam, who recycled the cash back to the US politicians for “campaign contributions.” What say we ask those persons to give back to the investors [small investors first] any of the money Sam gave them. Think that will happen? Naw, it ain’t gonna happen.
SBF is the mystical fall guy for all the assorted criminals reaping from the Ukrainian masquerade, left leaning slush fund. He will probably meet his demise too, alone in his cell.
You read my mind!
My wonderful bottom line thinking wife asked me: “where did the money go?” To which I replied, “to all the players who traded their crypto for cash before it vaporized.” And because it’s crypto, she asked “is it traceable?” Well, these are great questions. Can you expand on this?
Crypto is traceable, for the most part. It all depends on how badly one wants to trace it.
The blockchains and the wallet addresses between whom transactions take place, are available for anyone with a computer to see how much was transacted, and by whom. While they are not tied to any known person, their wallet IDs are there for all to see.
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer is just one website that tracks transactions.
Eventually, you have to come out "somewhere" to cash out. Most of the exchanges that allow transferring from a CRYPTO to a FIAT currency, have registered with their respective governments. That is where the feds can tie the anonymous to the known.
So yes, very traceable.
Easy to link the anonymous to the known?
Not in the least. But very possible given the right tools and the right know how.
And who better to unravel those mysterious anonymous wallet addresses than the USA's Federal Government 3 letter agencies?
That is, if the people that control their leashes, let them. :)
FTX was also a sponsor of the 2022 Mercedes F1 Team, something any onboard footage will clearly show. Mercedes F1 must be loving that it’s largely been missed in all media articles, and rest assured - they will be quietly removing those sponsorship stickers for next season!
Proof please! What do you base your opinion on besides your hatred of Democrats?
Dorothy. Best not to engage tonight. He is on a warpath. You have to admire his tenacity.
Yes, here you go with your usual complementary remarks. I don't watch CNBC all the time but I do most of the time; but I would have thought that it would have been on other channels as well.
How many millions did other companies get from Trump that I doubt that will ever be paid back??
Sorry, I don't watch Days of Our Lives, but I'm sure you probably do. Fox news is notoriously bad for stretching the truth. Can't stand to watch it any more. But that's right up your alley. Trump-tied companies received millions in small business aid that actually went to large companies first: Ashford Hospitality Trust received $96.1M in loans, the highest amt received by any company under the program. The hotels are run by Trump donor Monty Bennett, who gave $548K to Republican candidates and groups. There were others that received money but Ashford got the most. I know you don't care so go ahead and drink your wine and live in la la land.