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"𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘨𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘶𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘷𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘦..." That is debatable.

"𝘞𝘦 𝘨𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮 𝘐.𝘖.𝘜𝘴…" Which they used to purchase real assets in our Country, things like Land, Buildings and Companies - so cry me a river.

"𝘐𝘯 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘢 𝘢𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘦, 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 800 𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘯 𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘮𝘺 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘦 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯," At whose expense, Bill? Now tell us what happened to American Workers over that same period...

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An Ol' LSO's avatar

Unfortunately, the American Worker was sold-out by the elites and mega-corporations when manufacturing was moved overseas or Mexico. Cheaper to produce stuff with labor rates a 10th or less of what workers are paid in America and without all the regulations. The elites paid the politicians and the politicians complied - today just like the Jewish Lobby and Trump. Manufacturing in some respects may come back but not the jobs since robotics and quantum AI will be used. The U.S. Government was right there cheering it on. Politics is about Power and Money. Governments and elites always sell out us peons for their own benefit. And, unfortunately, there is NO easy fix. Manufacturing has forever changed.....now the focus becomes what to do with all the peons. Us peons become unhappy and set-up guillotines when we can't feed our families. My view......chaos ahead.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

What to do, what to do. All those stupid, unproductive, potentially-violent eaters - and their snot-nosed, dirty offspring.

Hmmmm - Pandemic? War? Vaccine v2.0? Societal Collapse? Aliens? RAPTURE??

If you've never heard of the Deagel Report, avail yourself asap. From Doug Casey no less:

"𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙮’𝙫𝙚 𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙖𝙗𝙤𝙪𝙩 70% 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐𝙎 𝙥𝙤𝙥𝙪𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙗𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙖𝙢𝙚 𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙘𝙚𝙣𝙩𝙖𝙜𝙚 𝙞𝙣 𝙀𝙪𝙧𝙤𝙥𝙚, 𝙞𝙨 𝙜𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙙𝙞𝙨𝙖𝙥𝙥𝙚𝙖𝙧 𝙗𝙮 2025."

https://internationalman.com/articles/doug-casey-on-the-shocking-2025-deagel-forecast/

https://archive.org/details/deagel-2025-forecast-by-country

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An Ol' LSO's avatar

Well said, SE. I am not sure about when but the elites definitely want less peons. Just watching what is happening in Europe (primarily Germany) and Britain. People are going to jail for making fun of politicians or violating the restrictions on "free" speech. The peons are now being taught - stay in line, do not mess with us or else. Where does this go???? ¿Quien sabe? but it is going to be ugly.

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Steve L's avatar

Exactly why I’m looking at properties in Argentina:). I’ve been telling all family and friends to also buy now for two reasons. First, with the country turning from socialism to capitalism it’s such an incredible opportunity for investment. Second, when the world is at war, and most northern hemisphere nations will be affected by the limited nuclear exchange that is inevitable, life will go on happily ever after down there. So like with everything that is happening, it’s up to you to decide what the best move is now 🤔

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An Ol' LSO's avatar

SE, thank you so much! The articles mentioned from Casey and Deagel are eye-opening beyond imagination. Frankly, the Big Picture is so shrouded rarely do us peons get a glimpse. Again, thank you!

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StarboardEdge's avatar

You are welcome, Ol' Man.

I have never done this, but a researched cross reference to the table in the second link with the existing percentage of each Country's population that is 𝗪𝗵𝗶𝘁𝗲/𝗖𝗮𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘀𝗶𝗮𝗻 might be a very interesting analysis.

No "conspiracy" talk, just a thought...

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Brian H's avatar

Rapture=Alien abduction. Its the perfect explanation. Just a coincidence, all the UFO publicity in the mainstream press?

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StarboardEdge's avatar

We may have been separated at birth, Brian. I've said it before - when the Rapture happens, "aliens" will be the perfect answer to the masses from the godless "elites."

"All those missing people around the world were abducted through some mysterious mechanism, for unknown reasons, by an enemy no one can locate and that may be immune to retaliation of any kind even if we 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 find them." The cherry on top will be when they broadcast to the world that they are "Hard on the alien's trail and Justice will be served. Relax tax chattel - you can all return to your TVs, phones, drugs, perversions, sportsball games, lame dances and bleating - the immediate danger has passed, but we're still figuring out how much money we will need to begin Phase 1 of our response to this unprecedented event. We'll give your governments preliminary figures for your Nation's contribution amounts in the very near future.

What's that? The missing seem to predominantly have been regular Church-goers? No, you're mistaken - so mistaken that if you say it out loud again you'll find that your car won't start, your bank cards won't work and your internet connection won't stay up."

Satan laid this groundwork long, long ago...

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Mike Ware's avatar

Amen SE, Satan is indeed behind the groundwork but Christ is in control of the Plan and still on His throne at the right hand of the Father!

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Worm Farmer extraordinaire's avatar

"SE. We are not fighting against flesh and blood."

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Agent22Smith's avatar

Casey makes sense. Humans are inherently tribal. Bio-engineering is a plausible weapon of war. I suspected that the Wuhan virus was designed to wipe out the elderly and thus eliminate an enormous and unsupportable financial burden in both The West and China.

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working stiff's avatar

Other than your obsession with Jews ad Trump - I find myself in violent agreement with your post.

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Patrick H Neff's avatar

My sentiments exactly , ol lso , thanks

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

"If a foreign country can supply us with a commodity cheaper than we ourselves can make it, better buy it from them with some part of the produce of our own industry employed in a way in which we have some advantage."

~ Adam Smith, from An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, (1776)

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Yes, production first then consumption. Printing and exporting dollar bills is not production. The U.S. broke the golden economic rule and they're paying the price. Do you want to live in a Sovereign Nation State? If the answer is yes, then you cannot perpetually run a trade deficit. It was Wall Street and the London Banksters who pushed the off-shoring. Do you really think these folks gave a damn about what would happen to the Nativists. Safe to say they didn't give it a thought. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese become the London Banker's next junior partner :-)

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Bill's avatar

As you said commodity. International trade In seventeen seventy six was pretty much cotton rum spice whatever. It was not a I , computer chips, Tic tok, and all matter of economic and cultural influence. Imagine if he had learned that we could no longer build ships, medicine, or even the uniforms for our troops.

A completely new meaning for the " Invisible hand." It's only invisible because we haven't been paying attention.

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Jimm Roberts's avatar

We can build and make anything we want. But others can too, and much less costly.

FYI: We have a Buy American law too.

It requires the USG to ensure some of its foreign purchases have some portion made in America

Better to expand that law than to impose tariffs

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StarboardEdge's avatar

One of the few personal things I have in common with President Trump is that we would consider BOTH to be the preferred course of action...

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Abe Porter's avatar

Well said. Other countries have been lifted from poverty, but our country still has poverty levels that have not been uplifted.

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Ed Uehling's avatar

Because of our own foolishness totally unrelated to trade: schools that don’t teach, 45% of GNP going to government; hugely inefficient transportation system based on expensive cars; war after war after war $30 trillion wasted on that alone; dock workers who can prevent modernization; dearth of engineers; politicians interested only in their personal wealth; police who can’t arrest shoplifters; etc

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Bill's avatar

So let me.

Get this great a T-shirt.Is something of real value and a T billl is not.

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Egypt Solomon's avatar

So here we are in 2025, the global economy on life support and pumped full of denial, with the top 10 global superpowers ranked not by GDP or tech or firepower, but by how long they’ve simply refused to die.

India and China were writing laws in stone while the rest of us were still poking frogs with sticks. Turkey, France, and the UK have each buried more empires than America has reality TV shows. And the U.S.? Practically dead last—only slightly ahead of Germany, which is fitting, since Germany holds the historic record for accidentally launching world wars like someone tripping over the coffee table.

Enter the new kid on the block, pounding his chest and waving tariffs like some cursed economic Pokémon card. One man, standing atop a crumbling capitalist funhouse, genuinely believes he can bankrupt civilizations older than language by making them pay an extra tax to ship iPhone cases to Kansas. As if these nations hadn’t been trading spices, gold, and gods when America was still debating powdered wigs. That’s like handing the Pope a flyer and asking if he’s heard of Catholicism—while charging him for communion bread.

And so we wait. The markets twitch like dying insects, the dollar bloats like a corpse in the sun, and ancient empires—some built on blood, some on philosophy—are now being lectured on economics by a nation that once thought Blockbuster was forever.

Hahaha. History isn’t repeating itself anymore—it’s glitching, overdosing, and screaming into the void while we all clap along with fireworks strapped to the wheel.

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

Well, that was some great writing. You should contact USAID.

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Clem Devine's avatar

That is just brilliant Gypt!

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Agent22Smith's avatar

“Is this a great country or what?! We print pictures of old dead guys, ship it overseas and in return get really cool stuff!” This from a convo about our economy 30 years ago with a close friend and very successful entrepreneur. We laughed and wondered how long it would take for the game to end.

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Bill's avatar

What cool stuff that we could not have or were not making ourselves.?

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Agent22Smith's avatar

Nothing we couldn't or didn't do ourselves...just cheaper and in some cases better. Cars and electronics immediately come to mind.

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Steve L's avatar

We can blame our current demise on many number of factors, but the fact is that America has been taken over by communists/globalist, hidden in both parties, but primarily the democrats, and very sick, demented business people. They rigged the system to destroy education, and once the population was dumber, take total control. They stole the wealth of our most productive middle class and gave it to the most unproductive in the name of “Equity”, which has created “equally poor in both classes, while the 1% became 3%. The other’s melded into the equally poor, and equally politically divided so the masters can have full control. A brilliant, evil scam on our people. It’s all about to come burning down, and I’m not sure who will win this battle, but know that it’s going to be painful. Hopefully many here took our dear host advice on boltholes and gold and our dear fellow readers advice on ammo:). Anyway, those who prepared, sit back and enjoy the show and continue to buy the dip in Bitcoin, maybe even cost average some great stock opportunities, and enjoy the fruits of your intelligence:). Good luck 🍀 and God bless America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

If Bonner doesn’t read this stuff, he is missing out!

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Read the comments? I'm start to suspect a couple regular poster's of actually being Bill in drag...

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Steve L's avatar

Dorothy Bonner🤔

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Dorothy's avatar

SL: Sorry, it’s not me!

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Steve L's avatar

🙄

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StarboardEdge's avatar

That's EXACTLY what Bill 𝘄𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 say!

We're on to you....

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Dorothy's avatar

SE: Sorry to disappoint..hahaha

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StarboardEdge's avatar

LMFAO!!!!

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Bill's avatar

Me too.

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Mike Ware's avatar

🤣

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Gmoney's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪😝😝😝🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yup!

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

Steve L. A good and reasonable write up. Will have cut and paste , if I new how. Thanks.

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Abe Porter's avatar

So right on many points

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Jack S. Hitt's avatar

As we all just bang our gums here, will it change anything? I’ve got one vote. I don’t BLM - Burn Loot Murder - like Democrats do when they don’t get their way.

Kind of feel like we’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Maybe it’s best to just keep your own “house” in order as best you see fit, and go fishing…

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StarboardEdge's avatar

You have succinctly stated the foundation level for most everyone here.

Build on that, sir...

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Jack S. Hitt's avatar

Thank you, sir!

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Abe Porter's avatar

Bill:

Very interesting article. You actually show why the Trump agenda is best for the United States economy. Since 1971 we have printed money to buy goods from other countries and our manufacturing has moved to other countries providing goods much cheaper. Trump is now getting manufacturing back to the US by the tariffs. We will now be making goods to sell to other countries; this will create a more level field and reduce our deficit. The second most important thing that Trump should do is STOP the printing press; maybe going back to the gold backed dollar. I would like your readers opinion. AP

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

Abe P. My opinion only , not fact. Many of the so called economists do not want to go back to gold because they call it archaic. But gold is the best way to value dollars . As gold can not be divided like dollars can, and One would impose that debt can not be more than the value of the gold that is in Your vaults. Thus mostly eliminating inflation. Say debt of no more than 25-30% of the value of gold a set rate. Now I know that Steve L. likes Bitcoin, but that is a story for another day.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Er, I'll say it then: Bitcoin.

Besides Gold & Silver, it's 𝗮𝗹𝗹 fake or digital anyway, so what the hay. At least with BTC you can keep it in a Cold Wallet and have the ability to actually PROVE ownership once the grid comes back up...

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Bill's avatar

Keep your print out. For what it's worth....nothing.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

All part of a well-rounded strategy, my friend...

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Conic Tonic's avatar

I agree with BB today ‘but’ at some point the rest of the world was going to stop supplying the West with real stuff for nothing in return but IOU’s anyway. And, it was going to happen sooner rather than later because the West had become more brazen and ridiculous. Perpetual out of control deficits and imposing sanctions on Russian assets have destroyed our credibility, goodwill and safe haven status. It was always only a matter of time before the world order as we knew it broke down. Globalisation can only ever work on a sustainable basis under a ‘gold standard’ … no tariffs needed!!

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Psssssst - isn't it ALL still based on IOU's, regardless of what Trump/the Market/ International Trading "partners"/the Man in the Moon/my beautiful, sweet dog Penny does or doesn't do?

Meh. Joke's on us - again...

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Conic Tonic's avatar

The IOU needs to be IOU Gold Now … which needs to be shipped on demand not merely promises printed on paper.

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Abe Porter's avatar

Agreed

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Xavier Narutowicz's avatar

The stock market is controlled by the 1%. It is not really a free mkt. In the short term it is computerized trading; in the long term, over the last 50 years, it has gone up astronomically. We were duped, if we had bought the S&P 500 we would have been rich; if you refined it to the NASDQ 100 you would be richer; if you refined it to the super 8 you would be super rich.

Bonner and partners have been into safety mode for 3 years and gold has gone up the dollar down. The mkt is consistently, long term up.

There is no real wealth in the US except infrastructure and real estate. Bill must not write his own stuff because he is very inconsistent; he branded the wealth mentioned here as ephemeral, now he gives it value, the used stuff always becomes worthless.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the stock mkt that is the vested interest, the foundation of the atrocious cabal that controls America, destroyed America; they might gyrate it down in the short run, big gyrations but in the long term they will protect its value… buy the big dips.

Bonner already said, “Don’t buy bonds.” If you want to kill the snake, cut of its head and watch out it still doesn’t bite.

Musk is an anomaly, he produces things; he comes from South Africa not Harvard or the debased American culture, education system.

I say, let it burn baby, destroy the detestable system and build it again on the necessity that comes from travail.

Flush the shit down the drain.

By the way, there are no tariffs on Argentina; Bill can keep shipping his wine.

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Penny's avatar

"The US transferred real wealth? Not exactly. The foreigners gave us cars, T-shirts, gizmos and gadgets. That was real wealth. What did we give them in return? Debt securities — dollars and Treasuries."

What we gave them is the blood of our sons and daughters, fathers, grandchildren protecting them on their soil from Nazi's and Communists who wanted to take it. We gave Europe our gold afterward, so they could rebuild their burned and bombed out cities. We gave them loans to rebuild.... and then always forgave them the debt. Just like Ukraine, Europe loaned them billions, the last 'group of presidents' gave $160 billion away. What you said, Bill is a slap in the face to every Gold Star family. While I often don't agree with you, I've always held a neutral view, but after today's post, it became clear. I don't like you.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Excellent points, Penny - and a perspective we were sorely and shamefully lacking...

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kenneth dame's avatar

Now we know, Trump has had a cohart all along. The US has been the world's other bad "guy", according to Bill. I guess we can next expect Bill to provide us with detailed articles on the wonderful elite multi billionaires like Soros, who have financially contributed so much fighting the bad guys. Myself, I love being a small part of the "bad guys" support.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Every smidgeon helps, and sometimes it only takes one hair to break a camel's back. So I've been told...

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Tom DeArmond's avatar

a straw

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Thanks - I 𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘸 something about that sounded off. Then again, I might have heard it from that Arab chick with the mustache that I dated in University....

:)

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working stiff's avatar

Again I find myself in somewhat agreement with you, Navarro is turning out to be a PIA. One question you did not bring up, "What about all the tariffs (monetary and not) other countries have invoked on the US?"" Should we just let that stand? Come on, dig deep and give us some of that old time BB wisdom... For example, Australia has zero tariffs on the U.S., however, they block all sales of U.S. beef, at the same time we allow thier inferior grade of lamb (New Zealand Lamb is light years better) into the U.S. Again, should this stand? Australia is not alone.

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

If You read what Ed U. has written, I think You will find the answer to many of Your questions. This is why I like this forum . Answers from all sorts of angles. But even some times more questions!

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Mike Ware's avatar

Why am I paying a fee to a guy who quotes CNN on a daily basis? This is getting ridiculous and annoying.

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JayCee's avatar

‘Like it or lump it’, with so many ‘Vapid thinkers’ and left-drenched 2025 ‘Guy Fawkes’ lookalikes, as politicians, bureaucrats etc, embedded in hierarchy - surely it’s proof positive, we might see what the ‘Western societal model’ pummeling we can expect and continuing to have roll out by Soviets, Communists and dictatorial power brokers.

By reading and listening to many facts, fictional diatribes, the political Sh.t. chatter, Marxists are totally committed to polluting the armies of common sense, the apathetic etc, with a singular aim, to achieve societal domination and dictatorship.

Tariff, and trade war. bringing back smokestack rare earth refining to already robotic manufacturing from Asia, back into downtown Detroit or other dead cities are a pipe dream.

It’s as good as being guaranteed 3 holes in one, on 18 holes, because you’ve bought new Donald Trump autographed, Mar-a Lago manufactured unique woods & putter…

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StarboardEdge's avatar

Wut? ya mean those expensive sticks won't improve my game??! The Haitian salesman at the red light promised a consistent 5-stroke shaving, minimum...

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Ed Uehling's avatar

Once again, thank you for such clear thinking. It is urgent that the rest of the world implement an international payment system based on real value thereby voiding the one-sided, US-imposed Bretton Woods Agreement, which previous morally bankrupt Presidents Johnson and Nixon violated even though it was a 100% give-away and gift to the USA!

It is that agreement that simultaneously and artificially enables our $35 trillion debt, finances our countless wars since 1948, forces foreigners to provide real goods for paper that is only infused with any value by an outdated and violated contract, etc, etc. Wake up world! Create a fair and realistic international exchange. Level the playing field for all so he or she who produces REAL value wins—not the biggest loser-bully.

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StarboardEdge's avatar

It's in the crib now, but maturing quickly. TraitorJoe and his Merry Band of Morons performed the Caesarian and overheard the happy parents name it BRICS...

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

Wish this could be done . But one is dealing with Human Nature from the world's many Countries. Each with a different view from their sides of the out look. But I have to admire Your thoughts.

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Ralph   E. Wood's avatar

You have lost "IT", the past year. Your postings are "clap-trap".

RALPH W.

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Abe Porter's avatar

Right. In rare moments, bill comes up with something to think about

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

Bill, lets connect the dots as you like to say. Neoliberalism gave us the Free Trade Mantra. Neoliberalism advocates for a strong state. Last I checked a Classical Liberal doesn't advocate for a strong state. Actually, it's just the opposite. You really think a Strong Nation State wouldn't put their thumb on the Free Trade scale :-)

"Neoliberalism is distinct from liberalism insofar as it does not advocate laissez-faire economic policy, but instead is highly constructivist and advocates a strong state to bring about market-like reforms in every aspect of society."

"Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy."

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