An interesting history review. The key summary of the current situation is it will take a long time to restore the flow of oil to the refineries and the end products to the consumers. Yes it will be painful.
The goal remains, stop Iran from having nuclear weapons. For the sake of the "world", that will be a good result from this "intervention". You are either a sheep or a wolf.....I prefer being a wolf.
As it say in the bible, "there is nothing new under the sun".
The only problem with that view point is Iran may now necessarily feel the same way given, our understanding of the past. Not that anyone keeps track of it, as it is understood. Reminds me of Charles Mackay's - The Madness of Crowds - Convid is a CLASSIC ezample.
I get your point Pete but we (the US) has done nothing for about 50 years to stop the crazy Iran actions. We and the world have paid a steep price. I don't like everything Trump says but he's the only president who faced the bully head on. I'll continue to support this action.
Somehow we seem to believe this won't affect us other than higher prices. The US imports millions of barrels of oil. Without them we'll be short diesel and jet fuel. And more billions we need to fix our roads and bridges. All because, once again, some Middle Eastern country could eventually have weapons of mass destruction. Pakistan and North Korea already do. Why don't we not care about them? Could it be they don't have oil? This is about oil, not nukes.
I believe that the consequences of the choices we have made far outweigh the consequences of the choices we would have left to fate...
‘I cannot do away with the strife in my country and the dissensions in my family; disturbing scandals oppress me always. Illness of mind and flesh bow me down; with cries of woe I bring my days to an end. I am wretched; death is seizing hold upon me, and bears me down...’
Et tu, Billy, there is always room for one more...
Where is the encouragement from the "Greenies"? Trump in two months has cut the use of oil more than all the carbon credits and protests have ever! Al Gore should be so supportive of Trump, with this cut back in oil use the world could last until 2015. Oh I guess it has already.
Well Bill as you have always said history does not repeat itself rather it rhymes with itself. The comparison between Trump and Ashurbanipal is a non sequitur. Obviously there is a significant difference historically between 669 and 2026. The technology as well as the geopolitical world is different by a factor of several centuries. The lethality of the world has also compounded by a factor of centuries where in Ashurbanipal's time civilizations were destroyed where in the present time the world has the power to destroy itself, and Iran has a belief system that supports such a narrative and the reglious fever to move such destruction foward if allowed. If not Trump then who? Open the Strait and maintain control over Iranian ports and it is game over.
It's as if Bill never took an economics class. A billion barrels less oil? Hmmm, does that mean less Supply? And what are those other two things.... Oh Right!! Demand and Price. Absent stupid government interference, if the supply is constrained then there will be some combination of reduced Demand and increased Price. The Market will ration the supply, as it does for every single thing humans need except the air we breathe. The only truly Free thing on the planet.
Benny and Mossad sold Trump a plan that has backfired. What is he willing to do to save face, and at what cost?
An interesting history review. The key summary of the current situation is it will take a long time to restore the flow of oil to the refineries and the end products to the consumers. Yes it will be painful.
The goal remains, stop Iran from having nuclear weapons. For the sake of the "world", that will be a good result from this "intervention". You are either a sheep or a wolf.....I prefer being a wolf.
As it say in the bible, "there is nothing new under the sun".
Jim Marshall
The only problem with that view point is Iran may now necessarily feel the same way given, our understanding of the past. Not that anyone keeps track of it, as it is understood. Reminds me of Charles Mackay's - The Madness of Crowds - Convid is a CLASSIC ezample.
I get your point Pete but we (the US) has done nothing for about 50 years to stop the crazy Iran actions. We and the world have paid a steep price. I don't like everything Trump says but he's the only president who faced the bully head on. I'll continue to support this action.
Jim Marshall
Somehow we seem to believe this won't affect us other than higher prices. The US imports millions of barrels of oil. Without them we'll be short diesel and jet fuel. And more billions we need to fix our roads and bridges. All because, once again, some Middle Eastern country could eventually have weapons of mass destruction. Pakistan and North Korea already do. Why don't we not care about them? Could it be they don't have oil? This is about oil, not nukes.
I believe that the consequences of the choices we have made far outweigh the consequences of the choices we would have left to fate...
‘I cannot do away with the strife in my country and the dissensions in my family; disturbing scandals oppress me always. Illness of mind and flesh bow me down; with cries of woe I bring my days to an end. I am wretched; death is seizing hold upon me, and bears me down...’
Et tu, Billy, there is always room for one more...
Where is the encouragement from the "Greenies"? Trump in two months has cut the use of oil more than all the carbon credits and protests have ever! Al Gore should be so supportive of Trump, with this cut back in oil use the world could last until 2015. Oh I guess it has already.
Well Bill as you have always said history does not repeat itself rather it rhymes with itself. The comparison between Trump and Ashurbanipal is a non sequitur. Obviously there is a significant difference historically between 669 and 2026. The technology as well as the geopolitical world is different by a factor of several centuries. The lethality of the world has also compounded by a factor of centuries where in Ashurbanipal's time civilizations were destroyed where in the present time the world has the power to destroy itself, and Iran has a belief system that supports such a narrative and the reglious fever to move such destruction foward if allowed. If not Trump then who? Open the Strait and maintain control over Iranian ports and it is game over.
It's as if Bill never took an economics class. A billion barrels less oil? Hmmm, does that mean less Supply? And what are those other two things.... Oh Right!! Demand and Price. Absent stupid government interference, if the supply is constrained then there will be some combination of reduced Demand and increased Price. The Market will ration the supply, as it does for every single thing humans need except the air we breathe. The only truly Free thing on the planet.