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Paul Murray's avatar

America was the single, greatest country on Earth up until 1960. As we learned from the Kennedy Assassination (an inside job), that's when government went on autopilot and took over. That should not surprise us; the nature of government is the preservation and expansion of government. Period. The so-called people are merely there for its use and benefit. That's it. Why? Because government is of Man, and human nature is constant. All government eventually goes bad. I believe that as a CONCEPT, America is the greatest idea ever to come to light on the planet. I had the privilege to have lived it and seen it, even if I arrived at just a little bit before midnight, and Cinderella's little dream was coming to an end. Best always. PM

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rKf's avatar

You’ve put it in a nutshell. I too am grateful for living in these times. What saddens me most is the failure of us all to appreciate what we had and the inability or reluctance to protect it. Something will come out of this chaos. There are too many variables to predict what it will look like. It’s too early, I think, for Grok or GPT to figure it out; if AI does, it may not be a good thing for humans. Still, we humans have done a piss-poor job of managing ourselves and our beautiful planet.

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

This of what You said Paul, seems to wrap up the package and put a pretty bow on top!

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Paul Murray's avatar

More disinformation from Bonner! The MOAB is not a "bunker buster". The bunker buster is the MOP (massive ordnance penetrator), essentially a 15-ton lawn dart with explosive capability. The MOAB does not penetrate; rather, it explodes above the surface and creates a laterally expanding pressure blast that obliterates structure and personnel over a wide area. Jeez Louise. If you're going to use graphics in these polemics, do it correctly. Best always. PM

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Dan  Denning's avatar

That's my mistake, not Bill's. I added a picture of a bomb to make the point.

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Michael L. Martin's avatar

Nice catch, Paul.

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D. Young's avatar

Mother Of All Massive Ordnance Penetrators" has a nice ring to it, though = MOAMOP.

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rjt's avatar

For those writing to complain about Mr. Bonner's recent spate of TDS diatribes I recommend having a look at Doug Casey's <internationalman.com> .

Yesterday's article on the demise of the US Treasury bond was a good extension of Mr. Bonner's thesis.

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Paul Murray's avatar

Bonner and Casey have been "good cop/bad cop" in their confederated economic enterprise since the 70s. I prefer Casey's style over Bonner's, meaning "give it to me straight, Doc" and Casey is not shy in his disdain for ALL government, which, as regular readers here know, is also my "deal". What neither of them tells you is that they sell a crash that has never occurred and may never occur in our lifetimes, so you have to hedge. Nary a word on that. I think Casey is less of a dreamer than Bonner, but Bonner attracts more with honey than Casey does with vinegar. It was a match made in money heaven. Best always. PM

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rjt's avatar

Yes. Timing the market is difficult.

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Cam Gilmour's avatar

I have no disagreement with Mr. Bonner's thesis about the eventual ruin of the United States of America. The metrics Bonner and his colleagues use tell the story. I am just tired of his continued theme about the death of America. I think most of us get that. Stick to the primary trend thesis and offer subscribers investment advice stock recommendations.

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Richard Hess's avatar

In other words, we don't care about the ruin of the United States....just tell us how to make money on it?

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Pamela's avatar

Hey, lighten up. it’s America! Where a bet can be waged on anything! Don’t need no stickin’ job anymore to get cash…

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Dave J's avatar

Ah yeah, this is a financial newsletter after all.

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Ed Uehling's avatar

Maybe it’s of particular interest to us because it was the even more-repeated promise of our candidate to guarantee the exact opposite outcome! He properly criticized the Dems but has, without doubt, accelerated the decline THEY had mounted (stupidly?, incompetently? purposely?). Trump’s embrace of the Dems’ incompetence combined with his intentional criminalizing of many of the nation’s best producers (farmers, factories, universities, foreign talent and workers, etc), blatant attacks on previously friendly nations and his love affair with man’s proven greatest enemy (war) will guarantee the end result Bill warns us of.

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Frank Westmoreland's avatar

Mr. Gilmour, I also have problems with Bill’s constant complaining. So I believe he should provide viable solutions—at least once in awhile. For example, his “solution” pertaining to the federal budget is to quickly balance it. Okay, but for starters, how many years to achieve it? And provide some examples of necessary cuts? And then discuss if it’s even politically-viable for the GOP to do this. And so on and so forth. But nothing from Bill here.

After grad school, I accepted a management job in a major corporation in the 1980s; and, it didn’t take long for young, know-it-all me to find fault with a couple of things another department was doing. So I let my boss know. Being the wise old owl (a man of few words), he calmly asked me to return to my office, and come up with a list of solutions to improve the situation, then together we would analyze and discuss them, then see if they were worthy of him discussing it with his peer in that department. He did not hear from me about that matter again. A humbling, but helpful, experience for which I am still grateful. So I guess I am sensitive to folks who just constantly complain, yet rarely provide viable solutions.

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Angry Icebergs's avatar

...does anyone know the actual extent of damage inflicted upon Iran's nuclear capabilities?

I am finding information ranging from practically no damage at all to totally obliterated.

Too bad one can't invest in media accuracy, it's very rare.

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Paul Murray's avatar

It's not like we are able to go over there and look around, poke stuff with a stick, right? And would you want to, even if you could? Just as the legal process was the punishment envisioned for Mr. Trump by the CommieDem establisment, so is the idea that we can pull off a stunt like this, and no one can do a thamn ding about it. Best always. PM

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Egypt Solomon's avatar

Reading Mr. Bonner’s missive today was like opening a time capsule from the future, except instead of artifacts and love letters, it’s full of overdue credit notices, shredded constitutions, and the unmistakable smell of scorched empire meat. You’re absolutely right Bill, if the West is collapsing, it ain’t doing it quietly, it’s doing it in style, wearing clown shoes, screaming about freedom, and choking on its own flag while tweeting, “We’re number one!”. And leading the parade of decline? None other than Trump, the Vegas sideshow turned apocalyptic messiah. The man somehow managed to turn every branch of government into a failed casino and still walked out with the deed to the buffet.

He is the perfect symbol of our times: part dictator and part infomercial. Speaks in sentence fragments, governs like he’s auctioning off the nuclear codes to a Facebook group, and praises Jesus between protection money payments. Under his reign, the markets don’t grow, they metastasize. Like a tumor pumped full of Red Bull and TikTok algorithms. He’s not draining the swamp, he’s franchising it. Now every agency’s a reality show and every war crime has a merch line. And let’s not forget the budget, he’s about to inflated that sucker like a discount bouncy house at a gas station birthday party. But hey, it’s all looking good while collapsing the Trump way: Catastrophic failure, but with fireworks and gold trim.

So yes, the empire is dying. But it’s a loud, neon-lit, exploding-limo kind of death. A death where the audience is forced to clap, be deported, or eaten alive by alligators. A death where the final words of the Republic are, “Like and subscribe!” And when the last dollar dies screaming, when the last missile thuds uselessly into the sandbox, and when the Statue of Liberty’s face finally melts off like a wax figurine at a Miami gender reveal party, one man will stand atop the rubble, glowing like a radioactive Cheeto, holding up a golf club and yelling, “We had the best collapse, folks. No one collapses like us.”

Bend me sideways with a platinum subpoena. Hahahaha!

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John P Gallien's avatar

Don't agree with much of what you wrote, but it was entertaining.

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Steve L's avatar

Our Big Beautiful Buget Busting Bomb 💣 🤔

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Don Hrehirchek's avatar

E. S. You certainly have a way with words that express Your thoughts. Most times are a memorable read!

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Petra Kehr's avatar

Hilarious! real good entertainment.

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Craig Whitfield's avatar

But at least for now, as State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce put it:

“The US “is still the greatest country on Earth, next to Israel.”

AIPAC has the money and owns the politicians so it's MIGA time. RIP MAGA, I hardly knew you :-)

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Cartero Atómico's avatar

It's interesting that JFK wanted AIPAC to register as foreign agents and we all know what happened to him. At the time it was called American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs.

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kenneth dame's avatar

Some of us may have gotten off the Watermelon truck but we didn't get off this morning. We have been aware for many moons that our debt load is and will be the demise of our "empire", as you call us, Bill. We have a way out (using the precious metals from our western federal lands) but know that it won't be used, because it requires future balanced budgets. Some of us have even known about the Military Industrial Complex from Dwight Eisenhower and even knew that Nixon's removal of gold backing the dollar in 71 would lead to the end of the dollar, as the world's currency. I know you have your doubts but many of your readers can read, write and do math, at a supprising knowledgeable level, even without degrees from an "elite" college, or world known university.

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Sluggo's avatar
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“USA Today:

In Florida, an ICE detention facility in the middle of the Everglades

‘Alligator Alcatraz’ expected to house up to 1,000 immigrants.”

Predictably, USA Today gets it wrong. It’s a 5000 capacity…for criminals; ie border trespassers/illegal aliens. Also predictably, USA Today denigrates the word “immigrant” by calling these illegals that.

More (accurate) info here:

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/rank-choices-wednesday-june-25-2025?r=12ghgx&utm_medium=ios

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Abe Porter's avatar

First of all Bill MAY be right about the demise of America. No one can predict the future; only time will tell. I, for one, still bet on the United States. Bill, as always, shows much negativity. No one knows the damage to the nuclear facilities in Iran. Everything you read is BS. To get the full impact of the bombing there has to be a visual of the various targets. I believe in miracles and Donald Trump. Once he cleans up the crap that Democrats (and some Republicans) put us into, I believe that he will tackle the deficit. Stay tuned???

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Paul Murray's avatar

America's already gone. Ideologically it has been "over" since 1964 with the passage of the so-called Civil Rights Act of 1964. That's when government took over FOREVER. Since the idea of America is essentially freedom and liberty (individual rights) limiting government, once government became the limiter of freedom and liberty (individual rights), America was done. Now the political entity known as the USA continues apace, and there is one big decision left to make before we know what happens. The decision is separation of the two sides and how to do it. Can an effective, negotiated agreement of separation between the sides, socialist and republican (no capitals, merely descriptors) can be implemented? If not. the "country" will devolve into chaos, and not only will we have the Mother of all Crashes, there will likely be a true civil war, which is totally pointless, because the side which succumbs to the other might acquiesce and knuckle under, but they will never change their beliefs, even if they live as the underlings in a "single' society. Separation, though a long shot, is the only way out, if anyone cares, and that is also debatable and certainly up in the air. Best always. PM

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Angry Icebergs's avatar

Not that I agree with the inevitability of doom that permeates this particular comment page, but I do agree with "separation"!... let's start by splitting California!

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Dave J's avatar

I vote for drawing a line (close to the Mason-Dixon) and let people vote with their feet. We keep the area South of the line and let them wear sweaters and heavy coats.

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Paul Murray's avatar

Make the big cities independent city-states and nobody has to move. Let them be as crazy as they want and give America back to the people who love and appreciate her, and we can go back to the country based on the Constitution as intended. Best always. PM

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Dave J's avatar

At this point, I'm not all that particular about how we do it, let's just freaking do it! Every time I return to California my hair turns more gray. It's absolutely pathetic what they've done to my birthplace.

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John S's avatar

You don't seriously think the Iranians still had anything left in that hole in the ground do you? Given all the signals, Israel's surprise attack, and the line of trucks photographed outside days earlier. 400kg of enriched uranium could have been carried out on a decent-sized ute! And not a whiff of radioactive material in the aftermath of the bombing? So my guess is all their centrifuges etc are now safely tucked away, god knows where, pretty much guaranteeing that they will now very actively pursue nuclear weapons, even if they weren't previously.

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Thomas Vincze's avatar

Well said Bill as usual!

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Frank Westmoreland's avatar

Bill, Once again, you only talk about overseas conflict by the U.S. existing to line the pockets of big wigs connected to the Pentagon. Yet you know full well that these characters only skim off the top of the $1T spent annually. The overwhelming majority of funds spent go to prop up American JOBS!!! For example, who do you think designs and builds the bombs?

Pentagon spending was about $320B in Y2000; it has grown to about $960B (projected) in 2025; a 300% increase. Now some of this is inflation-caused, but inflation overall in the U.S. over the last 25 years has not remotely increased 300%. Per the Federal Reserve, it's about 87%. So why such a huge increase? I contend it's about jobs, jobs, jobs to help compensate for jobs shipped overseas this young century via "free" trade and increased regulations on U.S. businesses. The Pentagon via its enormous number of contracted workers is the U.S.'s largest employer by far, dwarfing Walmart and Amazon. Do you really think the Pentagon would be so powerful if not for all the high-quality jobs it produces in the U.S.? And I'm pretty certain most of these folks are consistent voters.

My wife and I recently visited some relatives in Fredricksburg, VA, a supposedly small city about 50 miles southeast of DC. Maybe the city of Fredricksburg is still small, but not the metro-area by any means. We thought we were driving in DFW, Houston, LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta, DC, NYC, etc. And this is 50 miles outside of DC!!! There is building everywhere. Why? Because of all the CONTRACTED employees that the federal govt.'s enormous outlays pay for; and, these employees need to live farther out to afford housing. A good friend, originally from Richmond, VA, I used to work with told me that she and her husband were considering retiring there at some point, but building out from DC was so crazy, they half-jokingly wondered if DC would eventually absorb Richmond. And this conversation was ten years ago.

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Bob Haskel's avatar

Bill; what happened to Strike III on what to do with your ill gotten gain ???

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Cam Gilmour's avatar

Perhaps. Non- citizens working on farms, in restaurants and hotels should be okay if they have documents showing they entered the country legally. I am no fan if Trump, but don't count him out just yet.

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Petra Kehr's avatar

The best analysts I know, those who were at all these war theaters in person and long enough conclude the following:

1. Natans & Isfahan had been attacked before so it´s most likely they were allready evacuated

2. Fordor is hidden in such solid rock and so deep underground that no existing missile will effectively cause significant damage.

3. Israel has to acknowledge that it´s "Iron Dome" is a fantasy. Already the first rounds of retaliation had roughly 15 % of the missiles reaching their targets and causing hefty damages.

After the US attack that rate increased to about 35 %. Videos and Pics show devastation at it´s worst. There ´s a pressing question: what do common citizens of Israel think of this? Running to the bunkers at any given time?

4. During the past 19/20 months since the 7th October 2023 reports say that about 1,5 Million citizens left Israel. Since the attacks on Iran there are reports talking of 2 Million who tried to get out of the country. The transportation ministry limited acess to documents to a minimum.

All not confirmed but if that´s the trend for such a small community....

5. Putin is not only an ally of Brics and SCO but also has an eye on something like 2 million Israeli citizens who came there from Russia. They speak Russian, most probably no Hebrew. How deep and close might there relation be?

6. There are about 2 Million Arabs living in Israel. Do the math. How many people are really in the mood to fight and defend the country?

If my impression holds water I believe that Trump cornered Netanjahu and blocked the madness of his intentions with this charade .

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Petra Kehr's avatar

Addendum. I take some personal interest in the situation. About 90 minutes before the attack on Abu Udeid in Quatar our plane had lift off some 250 miles away......

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John P Gallien's avatar

Reading Bongo Bill's columns is like having a prostate exam every day.

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Bob of the bald's avatar

You have a nation in it's demise when you have a Congress so stupid that they pass LBJ's revenue sharing bill. Worst bill ever passed. How about all the money we spent to democratize the middle east when the people had no desire for a democracy; hell we have these same people living in our country right now who have no desire to conform to our culture. Nothing makes sense any more except our desire for freedom and liberty. That desire is the most likely reason the nation will divide because we are not willing to put up with socialist garbage any longer,at least I am not.Let's embrace our freedom while we still can.

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