Even physical borders didn’t mean much to the new immigrants. America was not a specific place; its borders shifted hugely from 1776 to 2024. We are all immigrants, in a constantly changing country.
Bill, It is nice that you can get your grass trimmed and gypsy wagon fixed by illegals - I am sure you paid them cash as well, leaving the rest of us to pay the taxes for them. You forgot to mention the other side of the coin. Most of the new jobs in the past few years have been filled by illegals - not because American born people will not do the job but because the illegals are cheaper. In most cases no need for the employer to worry about all of those pesky payroll taxes, benefits and Obamacare costs. Meanwhile a friend of mine (black man with low skills) has not been able to find someone to hire him for the past 12 months - so he sits on Gov assistance. So, you pay cash to get your wagon fixed, we pay the taxes so that my friend can be paid Gov assistance? I don't see an economic net gain there? Except you save a little while the rest of us pay the bill. That sort of sounds like that 1% model the Fed has been propping up for the past several decades.
It just occurred to me. What is the difference between a man on welfare and a government employee? None. So why not include all welfare recipients in the no-farm payroll stats??
Must be your kids, or grand kids, that are cleaning the shit and puck out of the Las Vegas hotel rooms. That’s cool, I certainly don’t want to have to worry about my tax dollars paying for their useless college tuition.
Well, I'm sure the Democrat-controlled Federal Government planned on allowing, without limitation, as many illegals as possible into the US because we're in such dire need for workers. We have no one to wait tables, wash dishes, mow grass, trim trees, shovel snow, plant & harvest, build homes, install an electrical grid, and on and on. Until those illegals arrive, are provided with housing throughout the "red states" (building voting blocs) and taught how to do something other than steal, the Feds will provide food and shelter. And while we're at it, let's send another (borrowed) $500,000,000 to Ukraine. Talk about a fast track to bankruptcy - almost like it was planned!
Perhaps us Americans should be become a little less toxic to work and clean our own houses, trim our own hedges and forget about paying them in cash so they don't pay income taxes. Trump is not going to get rid of even a majority of the illegals but definitely the criminals who prey on everyone here regardless of their ethnicity.
Na, we’ll just have your grand kids do a stint cleaning shit, puck, and condoms out of the Las Vegas hotel rooms so us retirees have a place to go play. Otherwise the city will dry up and blow away.
I think Bill likes to cuff his readers about the head every few days. He certainly knows the huge difference for immigrants between now and over 100 years ago. No freebies back then, eh.
You clearly know nothing about the border and the people coming across the border. Sure some are looking for the free hand outs (whose fault is that?), but most just want to work and maybe one day actually own a car, even at does have 200,000 miles on it. Oh, as for taking the black man’s job, maybe the black man would do better if he could start a roofing business without having to cough up $1 million in bond and jump through all the hoops necessary to get a contractors license required by the state.
Oh, Idk, maybe the fact that NYC, Boston and LA are broke because of putting illegals in hotel rooms with $2000/mo. in walk around money, plus 60/day for food allowance. Might be a clue, Dot..
Bill seems to forget the U.S. Constitution. It quite simply calls out illegal aliens. We are the only country in the world that allows illegal immigrants in and gives them benefits paid for by the American taxpayer. If we ignore the Constitution on this point then why the others. Enemies of America like obama say that the Constitution is just a piece of paper, I guess Bill thinks the same way.
Obviously you have not a clue what is/has been happening across the entirety of the EU, Canada, and Australia for a decade also. Your exceptionalism seems to have clouded your ability to think critically.
I am quite familiar with the Constitution, and I do not recall any provision that deals with immigration. Until after the Civil War, anybody was free to enter with essentially no controls. Passports and such restrictions did not come into general use until early in the twentieth century. Congress has passed legislation at various times dealing with immigration, but this is not a constitutional issue except that congress is authorized to pass legislation as it deems fit.
There is a provision that the President must be a natural-born citizen, but I do not recall any part of the Constitution itself that addresses immigrants, legal or otherwise.
The U.S. Constitution does not provide specific details about immigration policy but grants Congress the authority to regulate immigration and naturalization. Article I, Section 8, specifically empowers Congress to establish a "uniform Rule of Naturalization," which outlines how immigrants can become citizens. From Duck Assist.
Thank you Sallie. I was wrong it does not call out illegal immigration directly, it is in the Federal codes though. I apologize to everyone and for snapping at people.
Why is legal illegal not an issue? If there is a law that says that this particular thing is illegal, don't you think it should be upheld? We are a country of laws for a reason.
Hey Bill. The immigrants who arrived in 1800 didn’t get a debit card, free housing, free food, free tuition. And their transit across the shifting border wasn’t paid for and facilitated by radical Marxist NGOs, using my tax dollars.
And while the government spends hundreds of billions doing that, the homeless tax paying citizens of Western NC can’t even get a check for 750 bucks. Or a trailer (of which FEMA has 10s of 1000s) to try and survive the winter.
I’ve been following your work for decades.
Unequivocally you have never been more incorrect on any issue than this one. You should hang your head in shame.
Bill Bonner obviously lives in a world quite different from the plebes. He sees no difference between legal residents/citizens and illegal aliens. Decades ago, my wife and I sponsored several family members to immigrate from Taiwan. They were all educated, skilled, knew English, and had to prove they could subsist in this country without government assistance. We also had a legal responsibility to provide for them should they need any assistance. It was a rigorous process and took approximately nine years of waiting for them to finally arrive in this country.
I have also lived and worked in Taiwan. In order to obtain my Alien Registration Card, I first had to prove I had reason to live there (in my case, married to a Taiwanese citizen). I had to get medical clearance from a medical doctor both here in the US and afterward in Taiwan. I had to prove I had a place to live and means to take care of myself. Employment opportunities were severely restricted to jobs a Taiwanese was not able to do (in my case, teaching English as a native speaker). I couldn’t even volunteer my services if it impacted a job for a Taiwanese. Every three years, I had to renew my residency status. If I let my ARC lapse, I would have to start the lengthy and arduous application process all over. There are many foreign domestic workers in Taiwan to care for the debilitated and elderly, but if they overstay their contract, they are quickly deported. Taiwan also employs many foreign factory workers, but they must live in barracks within a controlled compound. When their services and contracts expire, they return home.
I suspect that Taiwan is not unique in their immigration requirements. The only country that is unique in allowing tens of millions to illegally enter and work in their nation is the United States.
Wasn’t it the Border Patrol who asked Congress to create a workable work program for aliens (oops can’t use that word)? But Congress refused. What that was back in late forties, early fifties? The has always been jobs citizens have not wanted; regardless of race or color.
Bill is a Dimocrat. Why not trade the illegals for those waiting patiently to enter our country legally? What about the schools and hospitals being overrun with our new non-citizens? And yeah, what about our citizens? Bill ignores the 100000 fentanyl deaths, the loss of 150000 minors into a black hole, and the sex slavery just to put on his roof up on the cheap.
Mass uncontrolled immigration was one of the last symptoms of the dying Roman Empire.
We kill our own off-spring and God replaces them with young illegals. Isn't it lovely. They will rise higher and we will be lower and lower. Authors of our own demise.
Bill, this is so bad I'm questioning whether you actually penned this. This is much more than illegal immigration, its an invasion. This isn't the immigration of yore. Answer some of these questions and then tell us if you still feel the same way:
1) Why are the illegals being shipped in mass to red states?
2) Who's funding this massive human trafficking exercise?
3) Why should American's who had no say in this illegal human trafficking exercise have to shoulder the burden of it?
4) How can someone be a net positive to society when their first act when entering the country is to break the law?
5) Why can't legal immigration be increased if the country experiences the labor shortages you're contemplating?
Yes, we are a country of immigrants. Here's the big difference with your attempt to conflate the current with the past. Our ancestors didn't come here for a hand-out. They weren't the pawns of some globalist cabal seeking to destroy the sovereignty of nation states so they can erect their one-world dystopia. They came here to work their asses off and make a better life for themselves and their families. Most importantly, they weren't a burden on society; they paid their own way.
When I was a kid, my mom used to say that every time they were feeling poor they would drive across the border and see people living in cardboard huts and the feeling of being poor would pass. It is amazing how naive Amercians are to how bad things really are in other countries. When people are hungry they will do what ever it takes to survive, I learned that running a cash business years ago. So, not surprising people will walk across a 100 miles of desert for a better life. However, we really have a problem at our border, for now the southern border, the wall will push that to the northern border also. We are giving away too many freebies. Also, state and federal governments require communicating in multiple languages, schools offer English as a Second language courses instead of demanding they learn English. In the meantime we need the workers, it isn’t our kids cleaning hotel rooms, flipping, burgers, and picking strawberries. But the US government has never crated a reasonable work program even after being prompted to by the US Border Patrol years ago. So instead we get illegal immigration and a huge rise in fraudulent documents and papers. But now the worry is more than that, now it concern for terrorist sleeper cells, which given the US roll in world affairs is not surprising.
IMMEDIATELY TRACK DOWN THE VIOLENT CRIMINAL ELEMENTS AND DISPOSE OF THEM. CUT OFF ALL BENEFIT PROGRAMS, CASH, FOOD STAMPS, EBT CARDS, CELL PHONES, FREE HOUSING, EVERYTHING. WHILE THIS IS IN PROCESS CHARGE THE BIDEN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION AND ALL TOP OFFICIALS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE CRIMINAL ACT OF OPENING OUR BORDERS.
I agree with everything except charging Biden/Harris and the top officials. That is their game, not ours. It is waste of time, effort, and money. The best way of getting back at them is through success. Four good years, and there will be a lot more of them jumping ship. We cannot accept or reject them then at our discretion.
Do you think all the Biden corruption should be allowed to happen or just the open borders that cost the US taxpayers 100's of billions of dollars a year go unprosecuted? I don't call this a "game" it's serious illegal conduct to me.
Should be simple and in many cases a slam dunk. Investigate, gather any Evidence to be found, prosecute. If the "criminals" are found Guilty, give them the full sentence for their crimes to discourage the weaponization of our Government in the future. And if some (most?) of them are found guilty of Sedition or Treason, then off to Gitmo or the noose.
While you are at it, have Congress create a work program where aliens (oops that word again) can come work on a temporary basis but without any offer of citizenship requiring their return to their home country after a certain time period or job completion, and meanwhile they must contribute to Soc Sec. Just think, all those people returning to their home country extolling the virtues of the US.
SW: well, his Great Great wall along the U.S.-Mexican border built only a fraction of what he promised. In the end most of which replaced old, existing fencing and he never got Mexico to pay for it.
IGWT: Then why don’t you also include your savior Trump. You know he had four years to do some cleaning up and Biden had a mess left by Trump at the border. The border has been opened since 5-27-24. The Appropriation Act creates the U.S. Immigration Service Border Patrol in the Department of Labor was formed. The border crisis has been going on for a while and in 2014 the US declared a crisis at the border. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for any Federally funded welfare programs such as SNAP and TANF. And undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in federally funded health coverage including full Medicaid, CHIP. or Medicare or to purchase coverage through the Health Care Marketplace (ACA). There are some benefits they do get. Refugees who have immigration status you can check out that info
for yourself. By the way, Trump separated the children from their parents and to this day there are parents who never got their children back.
SE: Then if you don’t believe it, try fact checking, which obviously you didn’t do. I don’t think you have really done any at all on Trump. He’s your savior no matter what. Good luck with that!
IGWT: Then why don’t you also include your savior Trump. You know he had four years to do some cleaning up and Biden had a mess left by Trump at the border.
The border has been opened since 5-27-24. The Appropriation Act creates the U.S. Immigration Service Border Patrol in the Department of Labor was formed. The border crisis has been going on for a while and in 2014 the US declared a crisis at the border. 𝘼𝙨 𝙪𝙨𝙪𝙖𝙡 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝙏𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙅𝙤𝙚, 𝙄'𝙢 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙬𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙖𝙮𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙄 𝙙𝙤𝙣'𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙠 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙠𝙣𝙤𝙬 𝙚𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧. 𝙒𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙄 𝘿𝙊 𝙠𝙣𝙤𝙬 𝙞𝙨 𝘽𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙚 𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙘𝙞𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙙 𝙙𝙤𝙯𝙚𝙣𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙄𝙢𝙢𝙞𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙀𝙊'𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙝𝙖𝙙 𝙗𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙥𝙪𝙩 𝙞𝙣 𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚 𝙗𝙮 𝙏𝙧𝙪𝙢𝙥 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙒𝙀𝙍𝙀 𝙒𝙊𝙍𝙆𝙄𝙉𝙂.
And undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in federally funded health coverage including full Medicaid, CHIP. or Medicare or to purchase coverage through the Health Care Marketplace (ACA). There are some benefits they do get. Refugees who have immigration status you can check out that info for yourself.
By the way, Trump separated the children from their parents and to this day there are parents who never got their children back. 𝙒𝙧𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙜𝙖𝙞𝙣. 𝙄𝙩 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝘾𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚 𝙎𝙖𝙫𝙞𝙤𝙧 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩...
SE: Don’t know where you get your facts : You don’t know your facts: IT WAS TRUMP who separated the children from their parents Not Biden. He kept them together. Beclowing, that’s you. By the way, if an illegal goes to a hospital, it would be the hospital decision to assist them or not, if they are not legally bound to do so. By the way, maybe you should go back and check your facts..bye SE.
Dorothy, do you have a decimal point in front of your IQ? He gave you links proving you are wrong on every point! Links from your well none, leftist Marxist propagandist such as New York Times and the waste of taxpayer money called NPR. By the way moron, it was your savior ObaMao that built the cages for illegal children! It was your current senile pedophile pResident that has allowed 150,000 illegal, unaccompanied children to disappear to sex trade and illegal labor practices. NOW, go take your meds and STFU!
Dot, all hospitals must treat patients, regardless of their ability to pay. SE is totally right on this one. Have you ever gone to a hospital emergency room? Be prepared to wait an eternity, as they wade thru the brown tide. ER treatment, extremely costly, is what's driving the high cost of healthcare.
Okay, Bill, we have moved away from your rants on how stupid, dangerous, etc. DJT is to the US’s future. Now you have focused on the deportation issue. You raise a few points against it, most of which are introduced with words like “could, maybe, and might.” But you fail to address any of the certainties of deportation. So, let me offer a modest discussion on this aspect. The Administration has said they will first focus on criminals and persons who have been ordered deported by a court. Surely, you don’t object to that standard. If you do, then you lose a great deal of my respect. Next, the Administration has said they will focus on those illegals that are on the public dole and offer no economic value to America, such as welfare recipients, unskilled workers, and those persons who have no “past” such that we can be assured they pose no threat to America. Are you against these folks? Can we be the welfare state for the world? Can we find enough roofs to repair and lawns to mow to employ all the millions of illegals that currently sit in state-paid-for hotels, get money for “food,” and free cell phones? And, what about the millions of illegals that came from China, the Middle East, Africa, and Venezuela? If China ever decided to challenge America militarily, they have tens of thousands of able-bodied men here to help their cause. Same for the Middle East single military-age men who we know came in illegally. Oh, and by the way, Bill, what about the millions of “got aways” that we have no knowledge about and who clearly didn’t want to be ID’d and checked out for their pasts? Once we get through the millions of illegals that fall under these categories, then maybe you can raise some validity about the “good” illegals that are fixing your wagon roof and mowing your lawn. Once again, Bill, come on man! Give it to us straight. We voted this guy in because, in part, the establishment tried to con us into not believing our lying eyes. Don’t continue the b.s. We ain’t buying it.
Trump isn’t doing or saying any of the things you allege in this disinformation piece. He wants to deport illegals who are criminals. This is sounding like a scare tactic letter.
EVERY single individual who came here illegally is a criminal, Mike! Every damn one of them! And if Trump deports only those who have committed an additional crime, I will be extremely disappointed in him. All of them must go. Round them up, place them in camps until a REAL border wall is built, then toss all of them over the wall. We shouldn't pay a cent to send them home. They found their way here; they can find their way back on their own dime. I'm flat out sick of this 💩!!
I simply don't appreciate people invading our country and breaking our laws. The fact that you find it humorous says more about you than it does about me.
That’s BS on your part. I grew up on the borders, Canadian and Mexican, father was US Border Patrol, I know more than most. I agree on the legal part of your comment, but the truth is the majority the aliens are good hard working people who just want to better their lives and come from a shit life, I’ve seen it. The US Porder Patrol tried to get the US Government to create a decent Work Permit back in the 50’s and they never did. So result, they jump the border and get fake papers. Now we can’t even track them and then require government documents in multiple languages and gives freebies out the ass. WTF!! Then the government imports “refugees “ from countries that hate us and gives out more benefits. So who’s at fault here? And we let it get so bad we really need a wall.
Quote: "I simply don't appreciate people invading our country and breaking our laws."
Can you explain EXACTLY where the B.S. in that statement is, Wes??
Every single one of them who are here illegally (what part of illegal confuses you) committed a crime. And it doesn't matter in the least if the reason they broke the law was to "better their lives".
The guy who breaks into your house and steals your TV is trying to better his life too, but he has still committed a crime and shouldn't be rewarded for it.
If they’re breaking into your house shoot them. That was what was happening during WWII, illegal crossings dropped to almost nothing. But the truth is we need them, otherwise cities like Las Vegas, or labor intensive farming, will disappear. In other words, don’t put a bandaid on a problem that everyone is forced to ignore. I agree completely on your legality argument, but history shows nothing can be outlawed if people really want it. As I’m sure that when they outlaw your guns you will be a good obedient law abiding citizen and turn them ALL in for destruction.
I agree with you Invector but the President just can’t do that from a humanitarian standpoint. We are razor thin in the House and such a move would cost the President important legislation.
Perhaps not, but he CAN legally deport every single one of them and there is little the squishes in congress can do about it. And even if we do have to pay to fly them all home, that would be preferable to leaving them here.
Maybe, maybe not. On this issue it is beyond clear that the People are behind Trump by a large majority. But I hear you - the stereotype that our "representatives" suck is for a reason...
Bill is good at connecting dots, except when politics are involved. The dot he misses here is that while Trump proposes to deport a large portion of those that entered the US *illegally*, republicans also propose to dramatically increase vetted, *legal* immigration. It's as if they're saying "We want people who are willing to follow the law to come to our country, and contribute rather than be a drain on public resources." What a novel concept.
Bill, It is nice that you can get your grass trimmed and gypsy wagon fixed by illegals - I am sure you paid them cash as well, leaving the rest of us to pay the taxes for them. You forgot to mention the other side of the coin. Most of the new jobs in the past few years have been filled by illegals - not because American born people will not do the job but because the illegals are cheaper. In most cases no need for the employer to worry about all of those pesky payroll taxes, benefits and Obamacare costs. Meanwhile a friend of mine (black man with low skills) has not been able to find someone to hire him for the past 12 months - so he sits on Gov assistance. So, you pay cash to get your wagon fixed, we pay the taxes so that my friend can be paid Gov assistance? I don't see an economic net gain there? Except you save a little while the rest of us pay the bill. That sort of sounds like that 1% model the Fed has been propping up for the past several decades.
It just occurred to me. What is the difference between a man on welfare and a government employee? None. So why not include all welfare recipients in the no-farm payroll stats??
That is the beauty of consumption taxes. At some point the piper gets paid.
Must be your kids, or grand kids, that are cleaning the shit and puck out of the Las Vegas hotel rooms. That’s cool, I certainly don’t want to have to worry about my tax dollars paying for their useless college tuition.
Why do the Repubes support the US Chamber of Commerce, who in turn supports immigration (legal or otherwise) of low wage laborers?
It's all about the shekels.
We “Repubes” do not support the USCoC. You are almost as misinformed as you are profane.
Do I laugh or do I cry? I did the first for sure with your first sentence. Best always. PM
Well, I'm sure the Democrat-controlled Federal Government planned on allowing, without limitation, as many illegals as possible into the US because we're in such dire need for workers. We have no one to wait tables, wash dishes, mow grass, trim trees, shovel snow, plant & harvest, build homes, install an electrical grid, and on and on. Until those illegals arrive, are provided with housing throughout the "red states" (building voting blocs) and taught how to do something other than steal, the Feds will provide food and shelter. And while we're at it, let's send another (borrowed) $500,000,000 to Ukraine. Talk about a fast track to bankruptcy - almost like it was planned!
Perhaps us Americans should be become a little less toxic to work and clean our own houses, trim our own hedges and forget about paying them in cash so they don't pay income taxes. Trump is not going to get rid of even a majority of the illegals but definitely the criminals who prey on everyone here regardless of their ethnicity.
Na, we’ll just have your grand kids do a stint cleaning shit, puck, and condoms out of the Las Vegas hotel rooms so us retirees have a place to go play. Otherwise the city will dry up and blow away.
What warranted this reply?
Mr. Beam, Mr. Daniels or Mr. Walker I'd guess...
I think Bill likes to cuff his readers about the head every few days. He certainly knows the huge difference for immigrants between now and over 100 years ago. No freebies back then, eh.
So, is the problem the immigrants or the freebies?
Bill what makes you think the majority of mass illegals are coming here to work? looking for
free stuff which we allow / offer no contribution to economy/ your elite attitude is showing!
You clearly know nothing about the border and the people coming across the border. Sure some are looking for the free hand outs (whose fault is that?), but most just want to work and maybe one day actually own a car, even at does have 200,000 miles on it. Oh, as for taking the black man’s job, maybe the black man would do better if he could start a roofing business without having to cough up $1 million in bond and jump through all the hoops necessary to get a contractors license required by the state.
EE: What makes you think they are not?
Oh, Idk, maybe the fact that NYC, Boston and LA are broke because of putting illegals in hotel rooms with $2000/mo. in walk around money, plus 60/day for food allowance. Might be a clue, Dot..
Bill seems to forget the U.S. Constitution. It quite simply calls out illegal aliens. We are the only country in the world that allows illegal immigrants in and gives them benefits paid for by the American taxpayer. If we ignore the Constitution on this point then why the others. Enemies of America like obama say that the Constitution is just a piece of paper, I guess Bill thinks the same way.
Obviously you have not a clue what is/has been happening across the entirety of the EU, Canada, and Australia for a decade also. Your exceptionalism seems to have clouded your ability to think critically.
You need to learn to read. The piece is titled "America's Special Mission.". I could care less about the EU or Australia so get off your high horse.
Sorry for snapping at you I was wrong, it has been a more recent occurrence in those countries that the U.S. has been experiencing for decades.
To what paragraph or provision of the Constitution do you refer?
Look it up I am not your teacher
I am quite familiar with the Constitution, and I do not recall any provision that deals with immigration. Until after the Civil War, anybody was free to enter with essentially no controls. Passports and such restrictions did not come into general use until early in the twentieth century. Congress has passed legislation at various times dealing with immigration, but this is not a constitutional issue except that congress is authorized to pass legislation as it deems fit.
There is a provision that the President must be a natural-born citizen, but I do not recall any part of the Constitution itself that addresses immigrants, legal or otherwise.
The U.S. Constitution does not provide specific details about immigration policy but grants Congress the authority to regulate immigration and naturalization. Article I, Section 8, specifically empowers Congress to establish a "uniform Rule of Naturalization," which outlines how immigrants can become citizens. From Duck Assist.
Thank you Sallie. I was wrong it does not call out illegal immigration directly, it is in the Federal codes though. I apologize to everyone and for snapping at people.
Why is legal illegal not an issue? If there is a law that says that this particular thing is illegal, don't you think it should be upheld? We are a country of laws for a reason.
Hey Bill. The immigrants who arrived in 1800 didn’t get a debit card, free housing, free food, free tuition. And their transit across the shifting border wasn’t paid for and facilitated by radical Marxist NGOs, using my tax dollars.
And while the government spends hundreds of billions doing that, the homeless tax paying citizens of Western NC can’t even get a check for 750 bucks. Or a trailer (of which FEMA has 10s of 1000s) to try and survive the winter.
I’ve been following your work for decades.
Unequivocally you have never been more incorrect on any issue than this one. You should hang your head in shame.
Sound a like the issue you speak of is not an immigration issue at all. Sounds like the uniparty just likes giving your money away.
Bill Bonner obviously lives in a world quite different from the plebes. He sees no difference between legal residents/citizens and illegal aliens. Decades ago, my wife and I sponsored several family members to immigrate from Taiwan. They were all educated, skilled, knew English, and had to prove they could subsist in this country without government assistance. We also had a legal responsibility to provide for them should they need any assistance. It was a rigorous process and took approximately nine years of waiting for them to finally arrive in this country.
I have also lived and worked in Taiwan. In order to obtain my Alien Registration Card, I first had to prove I had reason to live there (in my case, married to a Taiwanese citizen). I had to get medical clearance from a medical doctor both here in the US and afterward in Taiwan. I had to prove I had a place to live and means to take care of myself. Employment opportunities were severely restricted to jobs a Taiwanese was not able to do (in my case, teaching English as a native speaker). I couldn’t even volunteer my services if it impacted a job for a Taiwanese. Every three years, I had to renew my residency status. If I let my ARC lapse, I would have to start the lengthy and arduous application process all over. There are many foreign domestic workers in Taiwan to care for the debilitated and elderly, but if they overstay their contract, they are quickly deported. Taiwan also employs many foreign factory workers, but they must live in barracks within a controlled compound. When their services and contracts expire, they return home.
I suspect that Taiwan is not unique in their immigration requirements. The only country that is unique in allowing tens of millions to illegally enter and work in their nation is the United States.
Perhaps it was because the Taiwanese already had a taste of communism's delights.
Oh, and I failed to mention that I also had to have a police investigation done to prove I had no criminal history.
Wasn’t it the Border Patrol who asked Congress to create a workable work program for aliens (oops can’t use that word)? But Congress refused. What that was back in late forties, early fifties? The has always been jobs citizens have not wanted; regardless of race or color.
Bill is a Dimocrat. Why not trade the illegals for those waiting patiently to enter our country legally? What about the schools and hospitals being overrun with our new non-citizens? And yeah, what about our citizens? Bill ignores the 100000 fentanyl deaths, the loss of 150000 minors into a black hole, and the sex slavery just to put on his roof up on the cheap.
Mass uncontrolled immigration was one of the last symptoms of the dying Roman Empire.
We kill our own off-spring and God replaces them with young illegals. Isn't it lovely. They will rise higher and we will be lower and lower. Authors of our own demise.
Bill, this is so bad I'm questioning whether you actually penned this. This is much more than illegal immigration, its an invasion. This isn't the immigration of yore. Answer some of these questions and then tell us if you still feel the same way:
1) Why are the illegals being shipped in mass to red states?
2) Who's funding this massive human trafficking exercise?
3) Why should American's who had no say in this illegal human trafficking exercise have to shoulder the burden of it?
4) How can someone be a net positive to society when their first act when entering the country is to break the law?
5) Why can't legal immigration be increased if the country experiences the labor shortages you're contemplating?
Yes, we are a country of immigrants. Here's the big difference with your attempt to conflate the current with the past. Our ancestors didn't come here for a hand-out. They weren't the pawns of some globalist cabal seeking to destroy the sovereignty of nation states so they can erect their one-world dystopia. They came here to work their asses off and make a better life for themselves and their families. Most importantly, they weren't a burden on society; they paid their own way.
When I was a kid, my mom used to say that every time they were feeling poor they would drive across the border and see people living in cardboard huts and the feeling of being poor would pass. It is amazing how naive Amercians are to how bad things really are in other countries. When people are hungry they will do what ever it takes to survive, I learned that running a cash business years ago. So, not surprising people will walk across a 100 miles of desert for a better life. However, we really have a problem at our border, for now the southern border, the wall will push that to the northern border also. We are giving away too many freebies. Also, state and federal governments require communicating in multiple languages, schools offer English as a Second language courses instead of demanding they learn English. In the meantime we need the workers, it isn’t our kids cleaning hotel rooms, flipping, burgers, and picking strawberries. But the US government has never crated a reasonable work program even after being prompted to by the US Border Patrol years ago. So instead we get illegal immigration and a huge rise in fraudulent documents and papers. But now the worry is more than that, now it concern for terrorist sleeper cells, which given the US roll in world affairs is not surprising.
IMMEDIATELY TRACK DOWN THE VIOLENT CRIMINAL ELEMENTS AND DISPOSE OF THEM. CUT OFF ALL BENEFIT PROGRAMS, CASH, FOOD STAMPS, EBT CARDS, CELL PHONES, FREE HOUSING, EVERYTHING. WHILE THIS IS IN PROCESS CHARGE THE BIDEN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION AND ALL TOP OFFICIALS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE CRIMINAL ACT OF OPENING OUR BORDERS.
I agree with everything except charging Biden/Harris and the top officials. That is their game, not ours. It is waste of time, effort, and money. The best way of getting back at them is through success. Four good years, and there will be a lot more of them jumping ship. We cannot accept or reject them then at our discretion.
Do you think all the Biden corruption should be allowed to happen or just the open borders that cost the US taxpayers 100's of billions of dollars a year go unprosecuted? I don't call this a "game" it's serious illegal conduct to me.
Then You may start the legal proceeding.
If I could I would.
Well lets us throw this out to the readers. They must know the in s and outs.
Should be simple and in many cases a slam dunk. Investigate, gather any Evidence to be found, prosecute. If the "criminals" are found Guilty, give them the full sentence for their crimes to discourage the weaponization of our Government in the future. And if some (most?) of them are found guilty of Sedition or Treason, then off to Gitmo or the noose.
Simple really...
IGWT: Read my response above.
While you are at it, have Congress create a work program where aliens (oops that word again) can come work on a temporary basis but without any offer of citizenship requiring their return to their home country after a certain time period or job completion, and meanwhile they must contribute to Soc Sec. Just think, all those people returning to their home country extolling the virtues of the US.
IGWT: Learn your facts. The Border was opened when Trump was president. Why didn’t he fix it???
Did you miss the wall he had built? and Biden stopped building?
SW: well, his Great Great wall along the U.S.-Mexican border built only a fraction of what he promised. In the end most of which replaced old, existing fencing and he never got Mexico to pay for it.
IGWT: Then why don’t you also include your savior Trump. You know he had four years to do some cleaning up and Biden had a mess left by Trump at the border. The border has been opened since 5-27-24. The Appropriation Act creates the U.S. Immigration Service Border Patrol in the Department of Labor was formed. The border crisis has been going on for a while and in 2014 the US declared a crisis at the border. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for any Federally funded welfare programs such as SNAP and TANF. And undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in federally funded health coverage including full Medicaid, CHIP. or Medicare or to purchase coverage through the Health Care Marketplace (ACA). There are some benefits they do get. Refugees who have immigration status you can check out that info
for yourself. By the way, Trump separated the children from their parents and to this day there are parents who never got their children back.
That is astounding, Dot. I believe that EVERY point you made is verifiably inaccurate or outright wrong.
Well done...
SE: Then if you don’t believe it, try fact checking, which obviously you didn’t do. I don’t think you have really done any at all on Trump. He’s your savior no matter what. Good luck with that!
Oh brother- so many fools, so little time...
IGWT: Then why don’t you also include your savior Trump. You know he had four years to do some cleaning up and Biden had a mess left by Trump at the border.
𝙏𝙤𝙩𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 𝙬𝙧𝙤𝙣𝙜 - 𝙡𝙤𝙬𝙚𝙨𝙩 𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙡 𝙞𝙢𝙢𝙞𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙞𝙣 50 𝙮𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙨 𝙙𝙪𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙏𝙧𝙪𝙢𝙥'𝙨 𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙢.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/10/27/multimedia/2023-10-12-ambriefing-border-encounters-index/2023-10-12-ambriefing-border-encounters-index-videoSixteenByNine3000.png
The border has been opened since 5-27-24. The Appropriation Act creates the U.S. Immigration Service Border Patrol in the Department of Labor was formed. The border crisis has been going on for a while and in 2014 the US declared a crisis at the border. 𝘼𝙨 𝙪𝙨𝙪𝙖𝙡 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝙏𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙅𝙤𝙚, 𝙄'𝙢 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙬𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙖𝙮𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙄 𝙙𝙤𝙣'𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙠 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙠𝙣𝙤𝙬 𝙚𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧. 𝙒𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙄 𝘿𝙊 𝙠𝙣𝙤𝙬 𝙞𝙨 𝘽𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙚 𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙘𝙞𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙙 𝙙𝙤𝙯𝙚𝙣𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙄𝙢𝙢𝙞𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙀𝙊'𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙝𝙖𝙙 𝙗𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙥𝙪𝙩 𝙞𝙣 𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚 𝙗𝙮 𝙏𝙧𝙪𝙢𝙥 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙒𝙀𝙍𝙀 𝙒𝙊𝙍𝙆𝙄𝙉𝙂.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-immigration-executive-orders-daca-reverse-trump-policies/
Illegal immigrants are not eligible for any Federally funded welfare programs such as SNAP and TANF. 𝙉𝙤 - 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙮 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙜𝙞𝙫𝙚𝙣 𝙛𝙧𝙚𝙚 𝙝𝙤𝙩𝙚𝙡 𝙧𝙤𝙤𝙢𝙨, 𝙘𝙖𝙨𝙝 𝙘𝙖𝙧𝙙𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙛𝙤𝙤𝙙 𝙫𝙤𝙪𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙨 𝙗𝙮 𝙨𝙩𝙪𝙥𝙞𝙙 𝙙𝙞𝙢𝙤𝙘𝙧𝙖𝙩 𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙞𝙖𝙣𝙨 𝙞𝙣 𝙗𝙡𝙪𝙚-𝙘𝙞𝙩𝙮 𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙤𝙡𝙚𝙨. 𝙄𝙩 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙚𝙦𝙪𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙖𝙭𝙥𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙜𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙤 𝙄𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙡 𝙄𝙣𝙫𝙖𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙤𝙛 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙨𝙚 𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙤𝙪𝙨 𝙙𝙞𝙢𝙤𝙘𝙧𝙖𝙩 "𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨" 𝙝𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙧𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙧𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙁𝙚𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙖𝙡 𝙁𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙘𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙡𝙤𝙘𝙖𝙡 𝙩𝙖𝙭𝙥𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙗𝙪𝙙𝙜𝙚𝙩 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙧𝙩𝙛𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙗𝙚 𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙧𝙚𝙚𝙗𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙪𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙡𝙤𝙬 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙚𝙞𝙜𝙣 𝙘𝙧𝙞𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙖𝙡𝙨.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-nyc-migrants-credit-debit-cards-prepaid-240335300869
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/title-42-here-are-the-benefits-migrants-can-and-cannot-qualify-for/
And undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in federally funded health coverage including full Medicaid, CHIP. or Medicare or to purchase coverage through the Health Care Marketplace (ACA). There are some benefits they do get. Refugees who have immigration status you can check out that info for yourself.
𝙒𝙧𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙩 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙞𝙨𝙝. 𝙄𝙛 𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙡 𝙝𝙖𝙨 𝙣𝙤 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙣𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙘𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝘺 𝙘𝙖𝙣 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙪𝙥 𝙖𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙤𝙘𝙖𝙡 𝙝𝙤𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙩𝙖𝙡 𝙚𝙢𝙚𝙧𝙜𝙚𝙣𝙘𝙮 𝙧𝙤𝙤𝙢 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙮 𝙢𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙗𝙚 𝙩𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙙. 𝙒𝙃𝙊 𝙋𝘼𝙔𝙎 𝙁𝙊𝙍 𝙏𝙃𝘼𝙏, 𝙋𝙀𝙍𝙁𝙀𝙎𝙎𝙎𝙀𝙍 𝘿𝙊𝙏𝙏𝙄𝙀??
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/29/1221780712/more-states-extend-health-coverage-to-immigrants-even-as-issue-inflames-gop
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/local/2024/03/29/undocumented-immigrants-ran-up-566-million-in-hospital-charges-in-fla/73095539007/
By the way, Trump separated the children from their parents and to this day there are parents who never got their children back. 𝙒𝙧𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙜𝙖𝙞𝙣. 𝙄𝙩 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝘾𝙝𝙤𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙖𝙩𝙚 𝙎𝙖𝙫𝙞𝙤𝙧 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩...
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/20/621726918/obama-official-on-family-separations
𝙄 𝙥𝙪𝙧𝙥𝙤𝙨𝙚𝙛𝙪𝙡𝙡𝙮 𝙥𝙞𝙘𝙠𝙚𝙙 𝙡𝙚𝙛𝙩𝙬𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙨𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙙𝙞𝙨𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙫𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙞𝙜𝙣𝙤𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙩, 𝙞𝙣𝙙𝙤𝙘𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙨. 𝙔𝙤𝙪 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙖 𝙡𝙤𝙨𝙩 𝙤𝙡𝙙 𝙬𝙤𝙢𝙖𝙣 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙧𝙚𝙛𝙪𝙨𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙨𝙚𝙚 𝙍𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙮 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙪𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙗𝙚𝙘𝙡𝙤𝙬𝙣 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙛 𝙤𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙨𝙚 𝙗𝙤𝙖𝙧𝙙𝙨. 𝘽𝙮𝙚 𝘿𝙤𝙧𝙤𝙩𝙝𝙮....
SE: Don’t know where you get your facts : You don’t know your facts: IT WAS TRUMP who separated the children from their parents Not Biden. He kept them together. Beclowing, that’s you. By the way, if an illegal goes to a hospital, it would be the hospital decision to assist them or not, if they are not legally bound to do so. By the way, maybe you should go back and check your facts..bye SE.
Dorothy, do you have a decimal point in front of your IQ? He gave you links proving you are wrong on every point! Links from your well none, leftist Marxist propagandist such as New York Times and the waste of taxpayer money called NPR. By the way moron, it was your savior ObaMao that built the cages for illegal children! It was your current senile pedophile pResident that has allowed 150,000 illegal, unaccompanied children to disappear to sex trade and illegal labor practices. NOW, go take your meds and STFU!
I gave you SEVEN links (which you didn't look at) - yet you don't know "where I get my facts."
Dot, all hospitals must treat patients, regardless of their ability to pay. SE is totally right on this one. Have you ever gone to a hospital emergency room? Be prepared to wait an eternity, as they wade thru the brown tide. ER treatment, extremely costly, is what's driving the high cost of healthcare.
Okay, Bill, we have moved away from your rants on how stupid, dangerous, etc. DJT is to the US’s future. Now you have focused on the deportation issue. You raise a few points against it, most of which are introduced with words like “could, maybe, and might.” But you fail to address any of the certainties of deportation. So, let me offer a modest discussion on this aspect. The Administration has said they will first focus on criminals and persons who have been ordered deported by a court. Surely, you don’t object to that standard. If you do, then you lose a great deal of my respect. Next, the Administration has said they will focus on those illegals that are on the public dole and offer no economic value to America, such as welfare recipients, unskilled workers, and those persons who have no “past” such that we can be assured they pose no threat to America. Are you against these folks? Can we be the welfare state for the world? Can we find enough roofs to repair and lawns to mow to employ all the millions of illegals that currently sit in state-paid-for hotels, get money for “food,” and free cell phones? And, what about the millions of illegals that came from China, the Middle East, Africa, and Venezuela? If China ever decided to challenge America militarily, they have tens of thousands of able-bodied men here to help their cause. Same for the Middle East single military-age men who we know came in illegally. Oh, and by the way, Bill, what about the millions of “got aways” that we have no knowledge about and who clearly didn’t want to be ID’d and checked out for their pasts? Once we get through the millions of illegals that fall under these categories, then maybe you can raise some validity about the “good” illegals that are fixing your wagon roof and mowing your lawn. Once again, Bill, come on man! Give it to us straight. We voted this guy in because, in part, the establishment tried to con us into not believing our lying eyes. Don’t continue the b.s. We ain’t buying it.
Trump isn’t doing or saying any of the things you allege in this disinformation piece. He wants to deport illegals who are criminals. This is sounding like a scare tactic letter.
EVERY single individual who came here illegally is a criminal, Mike! Every damn one of them! And if Trump deports only those who have committed an additional crime, I will be extremely disappointed in him. All of them must go. Round them up, place them in camps until a REAL border wall is built, then toss all of them over the wall. We shouldn't pay a cent to send them home. They found their way here; they can find their way back on their own dime. I'm flat out sick of this 💩!!
What did they do to you? Did some alien really screw you over? Or is that just your warm fuzzy feeling about illegals? lol!
I simply don't appreciate people invading our country and breaking our laws. The fact that you find it humorous says more about you than it does about me.
That’s BS on your part. I grew up on the borders, Canadian and Mexican, father was US Border Patrol, I know more than most. I agree on the legal part of your comment, but the truth is the majority the aliens are good hard working people who just want to better their lives and come from a shit life, I’ve seen it. The US Porder Patrol tried to get the US Government to create a decent Work Permit back in the 50’s and they never did. So result, they jump the border and get fake papers. Now we can’t even track them and then require government documents in multiple languages and gives freebies out the ass. WTF!! Then the government imports “refugees “ from countries that hate us and gives out more benefits. So who’s at fault here? And we let it get so bad we really need a wall.
Quote: "I simply don't appreciate people invading our country and breaking our laws."
Can you explain EXACTLY where the B.S. in that statement is, Wes??
Every single one of them who are here illegally (what part of illegal confuses you) committed a crime. And it doesn't matter in the least if the reason they broke the law was to "better their lives".
The guy who breaks into your house and steals your TV is trying to better his life too, but he has still committed a crime and shouldn't be rewarded for it.
If they’re breaking into your house shoot them. That was what was happening during WWII, illegal crossings dropped to almost nothing. But the truth is we need them, otherwise cities like Las Vegas, or labor intensive farming, will disappear. In other words, don’t put a bandaid on a problem that everyone is forced to ignore. I agree completely on your legality argument, but history shows nothing can be outlawed if people really want it. As I’m sure that when they outlaw your guns you will be a good obedient law abiding citizen and turn them ALL in for destruction.
I agree with you Invector but the President just can’t do that from a humanitarian standpoint. We are razor thin in the House and such a move would cost the President important legislation.
Perhaps not, but he CAN legally deport every single one of them and there is little the squishes in congress can do about it. And even if we do have to pay to fly them all home, that would be preferable to leaving them here.
Maybe, maybe not. On this issue it is beyond clear that the People are behind Trump by a large majority. But I hear you - the stereotype that our "representatives" suck is for a reason...
Bill is good at connecting dots, except when politics are involved. The dot he misses here is that while Trump proposes to deport a large portion of those that entered the US *illegally*, republicans also propose to dramatically increase vetted, *legal* immigration. It's as if they're saying "We want people who are willing to follow the law to come to our country, and contribute rather than be a drain on public resources." What a novel concept.